Date: January 03, 2023 07:42 am Title: Chapter 1
I like your story. You put a twist on what we saw on TV and made it work.
What I don't like is the Pam in this story. Disloyal, ungrateful and selfish. And I don't blame Alex for that. I blame her. As if Jim didn't give up too much, and she didn't know it.
Date: February 11, 2009 01:45 am Title: Chapter 9
To the fangirls I say sshhhut it. There was nothing gratuitous about you having Pam hook up with other!Alex, because you took the time to craft a really believable reason why. You made it make sense. You took into account everything the show's...well, shown us, and you put the pieces together in a different way that never once took Pam, or anyone else, out of character.
This was really great, Alex. Thanks for sharing it.
Author's Response: It's not a Marty Stu at all, I swear!
Date: February 10, 2009 05:51 am Title: Chapter 9
New Year's Resolution 2009: Finishing a Work of Wert a/k/a facing my fanfic fears *check*
Start to finish, this is a great fic, really fascinating. I mean it. Have you ever considered using your powers for the greater good (as generally accepted on this JAMcentric site), Wert? Maybe making the fangirls happy for a change?
Must mention this: "That was some hardcore self destruction, wasn't it?" Wow. Never expected that line to reappear in quite this scenario. Very clever.
Dare I ask: anything else planned?
I consider this kind of thing to be the greater good. The Jam community is far too complacent and insulated for its own good. Left to its own devices, it stagnates with copious editions of the same story, every writer and commenter having the exact same thought in their heads, happy to be intravenously fed the same thin gruel day after day. I finally understand anarchists, not just the motivation, which I always understood, but the methods, which had seemed obviously ineffectual to me. Now I realize that it's not about that. You need me, the same way Batman needs the Joker, or George W. Bush needs some middle eastern dude. And I just followed a very high and mighty inspirational couple of sentences with a very dumb one. I rock.
Yes, I'm very clever. Except that I didn't even realize I was doing that. Maybe my subconscious is cleverer than my conscious. It does seem like exactly the kind of allusion that I like, though. In the future I'll take credit for that, even though I really didn't intend to do it.
I don't really have anything else planned. I want to finish something else I left off a couple of years ago in a different fandom. It's been bothering me that I never completed it, so I'll probably do that for the next month or so. After that, if an idea really takes root in my brain, I'll be back. It will probably be unrelated to making fangirls cry.
Date: February 02, 2009 07:56 am Title: Chapter 8
Wert, your attention to detail is amazing. You are the master of squirm. Despite my discomfort, I was riveted. AND you managed to capture Alex, a character who was barely on the show. I could envision that whole scene. I have no idea where you're going with this, but I am hooked. And, btw, I choose to believe that I did, in fact, make you update. So there. Oh, and, I will continue to bitch if it is warranted ; )
Only one chapter left, and I am torn between two ways that I want to take it which are very similar but end up in two vastly different places (figuratively - the location is still the same).
It's hard to write someone who starts, stops, and restarts so much in his talking, which is odd since I used to do the same thing when I was younger. I wouldn't have noticed he talked like that though, except that I painstakingly transcribed a scene earlier, and he was stuttering up a storm.
Date: February 01, 2009 09:09 am Title: Chapter 7
::impatiently waits for update::
Geez, you're so impatient. Bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch...
To be honest, I was having a tough time getting this chapter to where I wanted it to go. It's difficult to make a whole other plot fit into what actually happened on the show. And just so you know, I posted the chapter without having seen your impatient complaining first, so you have nothing to brag about.
Date: January 27, 2009 03:22 pm Title: Chapter 1
I am loving this story, these are flawed characters and I've been itching to see them actually fight again. It's been a while, hasn't it? It looks like it will finally happen soon BUT this flippin' house should have been the catalyst but it didn't, and I love your reasoning behind it. I was also really taken with your comparison of the similar physicality of Alex and Roy.
I hope we get to see where Jim does say that she should do what she feels is right in New York because I always felt that was very important. It's what makes Jim different, he tries to be completely unselfish in the relationship and it sometimes backfires (he bought her a house in a big romantic gesture... stupid boy) but the fact that he wants her to achieve her dreams, the reason he stays at a crap job... it's easy to overlook it as his naivety or boring-ness. Pam's not totally a victim or the evil dictator.
I love seeing them fight but I like seeing both sides. Jim's not a buffoon, Pam's not evil. I don't know where I'm going with this but blahblahblah, I really like this story. Thank you for not falling into the fluffy trap of suckful Jam.
Author's Response: You'll never see any fluffy suckful Jam from me. What you are going to see is KaPAM references wherever and whenever possible in the most oblique of circumstances.
Date: January 27, 2009 11:18 am Title: Chapter 7
In the attempt to suck just a little less...
So I'm going to share with you a little tale. (Compliments are coming shortly thereafter and are related, but feel free to skip ahead.) I really hated that speech of Alex's in this episode. Not because I hate Alex, at all, but more Jim and Pam's stunned/horrified reactions - like, what? You two haven't discussed the possibility of Pam staying in New York, in all your hours of talking? Something is pretty flawed here, kids.
You, however, have taken an element of the show that I hated and made it really work here. That's a feat and I give you all praise due. Plus, those last two lines of the chapter...if they were meant to be funny I apologize, because I cringed in that "oh, Jim...you just don't get it" kind of way. I hope that comes across as complimentary as I intended.
Okay, enough of Ms. Beets' endless prattling. This is pretty great, my friend.
And Strong Bad is fantastic. Come on, fhqwhgads. I know I'm not reinventing the wheel with anything I write, but I do appreciate the funny.
I'd never thought of that before. I was just trying to make that scene fit within the context of my fic, but now thanks to you I realize that it didn't originally fit within the context of the show! Hmm... Maybe I'm right and the writers are wrong. But I will say one thing about your rationale for hating the stunnedness: since when have Pam and Jim ever been good at talking about anything important? Wasn't that pretty much the crux of three seasons of show?
That is what the last two lines were meant to elicit. A cringe and maybe an awkward laugh (possibly a bit like the actual show).
Date: January 26, 2009 06:23 pm Title: Chapter 7
"One of my clients is a jewelry store," Jim explains. "Don't worry, we can afford it."
She's not the flamboyant kind. "Is this the same place you got my ring?" she asks, dreaming of costume balls, gala openings, and nights on the town that will never happen.
"No. I got that at a good jewelry store."
Date: January 26, 2009 08:30 am Title: Chapter 7
Perspective is a funny thing. Thinking back on the whole Alex/bluetooth convo as a JAM fan, I saw Pam chewing on all this info but knowing in her heart that she wanted to be with Jim, seemingly happy with that decision. Your perspective, in this fic at least, is quite different. Also, on the show, to me at least, Alex never seemed a serious threat. Viewing this interaction with the added perspective of Pam having been intimate with Alex really changes things. As I'm reading this fic, I have such a sense of Jim as Roy, Alex as Jim and Pam as confused and frustrated, still stuck in her Scranton life. We're so used to reading about Jim as knight in shining armor. Here, he seems like a normal guy, slightly misguided but well intentioned. His gift to her of the earrings emphasizes this, to me at least. He wants to help her and make her feel better, but they just seem to be at different places. I hope I'm making sense. I really appreciate your effort of splicing in the phone conversation, even including Dwight's interjection. Still digging this. Anxiously awaiting the next update. Still afraid...
Roy didn't think Jim was a threat either.
I think Pam wants to be with Jim too, but it's not all roses on one side, stink bugs on the other. Being with Jim is going to force her to make some compromises and sacrifice some of her dreams and forgo many experiences that she's wanted to have but that a monogamous relationship and fixed address and job make impossible.
Date: January 25, 2009 08:49 pm Title: Chapter 7
Finally someone is writing angst! This is the kind of fic that I'm always looking for, but is rarely written. I tried writing something involving Pam's relationship with Alex..but I have not finished it.You're doing a much better job anyways.
Keep up the great work! I can't wait for the rest!
Author's Response: I'm afraid that our tastes are a repressed minority, as the hoards of fangirls must have their Jam fluff at all costs, and react with the sort of revulsion and sickness usually reserved for the torture of fluffy animals at the sight of this unholiest of unholies. Not to overstate my importance, but this fandom needs me the way that beauty needs ugliness and benevolence needs tragedy. This IS an ugly tragedy - one that must be told to provide the balance and perspective that Jam sorely needs.
Date: January 23, 2009 03:54 pm Title: Chapter 6
I'm sorry I haven't left more reviews, because I have been keeping up on this. I suck - what more can I say?
This has been really interesting and great thus far, sir. I love how you've portrayed Pam and given us a peek at her life at Pratt. And your exploration of her relationship (and relations) with Alex is really well done. It's definitely a different take but in this fandom, where the same story's been told 3467654347 times (including by me), this is refreshing.
And Strong Bad? Yeah, bonus points for SB.
Yep, you suck. You suck big time. We should rename you Hoover or Dyson.
I've tuned out probably 3467654311 (and growing) of the 3467654347 (and growing) same stories. You know of course my opinion on that sort of thing. In achieving my goal of being the heretic of this fandom and providing refreshing, nonconformist views I may have guaranteed myself low readership and fangirl enemies, and I'm glad that people like yourself with intellectual curiosity are still with me, at least occasionally.
Also, props to you for pointing out Strong Bad. I was hoping someone would say something about that.
Date: January 22, 2009 02:31 pm Title: Chapter 6
I appreciate the fact that you updated so soon after all that time driving. I am pretty much a (way-too-old) squeeing fangirl, but, rather than making me cry, the Pam cheating really intrigues me. It's a new, little (if ever)-explored twist. As long as it doesn't happen on the show...then I will cry.
Author's Response: I've often said that it's probably a good thing that I'm not in charge of the show. People would be sad.
Date: January 22, 2009 01:44 pm Title: Chapter 1
And if blitzkrieg doesn't work, you can always try my favorite German word, luftwaffe.
Author's Response: It's doubtful that the Luftwaffe would succeed where a blitzkrieg failed, since the Luftwaffe really had no heavy bombing capabilities.
Date: January 22, 2009 10:02 am Title: Chapter 6
Aha -- Hitler is finally revealed. I don't know what to make of the revelation from last chapter, but I'll go along and see where you take us. This has been an entertaining story. Sorry, I'm a bit sleep deprived, too, so, lame review.
Author's Response: Sort of. The more apt metaphor will come later, but I needed this one for exposition for those who aren't up to snuff on their Adolf Hitler: the early years. Really, I only named it that because I knew there was going to be Hitler references and I couldn't think of what to name this. Of course, now I have to expand on that thought or else my title doesn't make any sense. So I've written myself into a bit of a corner. Luckily I can just use blitzkrieg to get out.
Date: January 22, 2009 06:30 am Title: Chapter 6
Wert, you trouble maker! I was just thinking about this fic this morning (really, I was). How is it that I'm feeling a little bad for Alex? I'm a Jim devotee, damn it! Great job incorporating Halloween, Pam's costume and the Joker into this. It's such fun (yet troubling) to read. You've reduced me to quoting the immortal Britney Spears: "gimme more." Soon?
I live to cause trouble (actually, I live to make squeeing fangirls cry). Anywho, sorry for the slightly longish wait. My car was giving me problems so I didn't get back until very late on Monday night, and my head wasn't clear enough to write well on Tuesday. That's what happens when you spend 17 out of 33 hours driving.
I've seriously enjoyed incorporating as much detail from the show as possible, and tying anything I write into other parts of my story, so that it all forms an intricate web. Too bad not too many people will be reading this one because I've upset their delicate psyches what with the Pam cheating and all.
Date: January 16, 2009 09:40 pm Title: Chapter 5
Oh, this is wonderful. Thanks. I love stories where Jim and Pam are actually flawed.
Creed on the front lawn? Priceless.
They're hard to find, aren't they?
Not only Creed on the front lawn, but in the bushes. Though I do wonder what happened to the original Creed Bratton.
Date: January 15, 2009 08:08 pm Title: Chapter 5
Oh no. I had a feeling it was building to this. Curious to see if they actually stop and Pam is guilty for something big or not.
Author's Response: I've had several people wonder where it went. I had thought that the conversation with Angela would have been enough to explain it, but I guess it isn't (I usually like being subtle, expecting my readers to be able to draw the inferences that I lead them to, but some people have different thought processes than me - as any population should - and the connection is interpreted differently). So I'll make it clearer in the next segment that it was big. That's what she said.
Date: January 15, 2009 12:54 pm Title: Chapter 5
ummmm, I do not think pam+alex= happened.
sorry, but still;;;
quite an interesting story (:
Do you think that most of what is written in fanfic happened? Do you make a point of letting the authors of those fics know that you do not think that what they wrote happened? I'm pretty sure that you do not. And why do you not? Because those stories don't desecrate the Holy Jam.
I desecrate the Holy Jam because it needs to be desecrated. Open your minds to the possibilities of The Office beyond just the resplendent love of Jim and Pam. The world is full and rich beyond the cloistered prison of dogma and you restrict yourself and your earthly experience by closing your eyes to it.
P.S. I don't think they did it either.
Date: January 15, 2009 07:10 am Title: Chapter 5
You went there. Pam. Alex. Bed. Groping. Wert, I don't know what to say. I was very nearly squirming as I read this. I don't want to like this, yet I do. I really like it. In fact, it's under my skin. You've very nearly recreated the Pam-Jim show with Alex as the mid-season replacement. One assumes in watching TO that things didn't work out with Roy and Pam because, ultimately, Jim was more her "type." Here we have Alex, who is physically more like Roy, quite the opposite of Jim. I'll stop now. My head is about to explode. Give me more, stat.
Wait. I lied. I would be remiss if I didn't mention that this is awesome: It's like all the transients pass through here on their way down the big hole. The mine or the quarry or whatever it is. Whatever it is, it's society's toilet, as far as she can tell. Ha!
Of course I went there. I'm me. It's what I do. I go out of my way to make fangirls cry. But I do recommend wrapping your head in gauze prior to reading any more of this. For your own safety.
I liked that society's toilet line too.
I hope I'll be able to give you more, stat. The next segment isn't as fully developed as I've usually had subsequent sections prior to posting. I'll try to get it up on the weekend, but I'm going to be away for Sunday and Monday, so if I miss my cutoff, it could be Tuesday.
Date: January 14, 2009 03:21 pm Title: Chapter 1
I must say, your last line in combination with the chapter end note has given me quite a nasty case of the Laugh Out Louds. I'm morbidly curious what the title means and am off to read more.
Author's Response: The title is really a stretch. You'll know it when you see it (it's in two chapters from now) but there is a greater meaning, which you would get if you read my fanfic "The Austrian Vagrant" and knew your World War 2 history. I'll try to bring the funny, but this really is meant to be a more serious piece. Well, than my usual stuff at least. Thanks for reading.