Penname: Coley Real name:
Member Since: May 12, 2018

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Sometimes I write stories. People seem to like them.

Author of the Month April 2019


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Summary: Past Featured Story

NOW COMPLETE! Jim gets in an accident on June 10, and Pam gets to help. Only AU in that it deviates from main timeline between S2 and S3 (no different worldbuilding premise).

Disclaimer: I do not own the Office or its IP.

Challenges Challenge Entry Q2 2018


Categories: Jim and Pam, Alternate Universe
Characters: Helene Beesly, Jan, Jim, Jim/Pam, Larissa Halpert, Other, Pam
Genres: Angst, Fluff, Inner Monologue, Romance, Hurt/Comfort
Warnings: Violence/Injury
Challenges: Hospital JAM, Sister Sister
Series: None
Chapters: 52 Table of Contents
Completed: Yes Word count: 63095 Read Count: 108605 ePub Downloads: 31
[Report This] Published: May 20, 2018 Updated: July 21, 2018
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Date: July 02, 2018 Title: Chapter 36: June 12: Pam's Chair by Jim's Bed

Pam’s pro and con list is pretty dang great! So is that ending, aww 😊

Author's Response: Aww, thanks!

Summary:

People always assume that Pam Beesly is as sweet in the bedroom as she is an all other realms of her life. A missionary-only type of girl, the girl you treat like glass.

Little do they know, she just wants Jim to shatter her, break her into little pieces. She decides she's done waiting for what she wants.

It's always the quiet ones.


Categories: Present, Jim and Pam
Characters: Jim, Jim/Pam, Pam
Genres: Romance, Steamy
Warnings: Adult language, Explicit sexual content
Series: None
Chapters: 1 Table of Contents
Completed: Yes Word count: 4656 Read Count: 4927 ePub Downloads: 5
[Report This] Published: May 27, 2018 Updated: May 27, 2018
Reviewer: Coley Signed 1
Date: May 28, 2018 Title: Chapter 1: The Quiet Ones

Listen, it's 93 degrees here currently and that's not why I suddenly need a cold drink.

This was delightfully dirty. That's all I've got. I can't wait to see what else you come up with!

Author's Response: thank you for this lovely review!! stay tuned xx

Nonverbal by BigTuna Rated: MA [Reviews - 14] 30
Summary: Past Featured StoryIn which Jim and Pam work through their communication issues...in a way. A sexy way. A reimagining of the S3 episode The Return.
Categories: Jim and Pam
Characters: Jim/Pam
Genres: Fluff, Oneshot, Romance, Steamy
Warnings: Explicit sexual content
Series: None
Chapters: 1 Table of Contents
Completed: Yes Word count: 4493 Read Count: 4718 ePub Downloads: 13
[Report This] Published: May 27, 2018 Updated: May 27, 2018
Reviewer: Coley Signed 1
Date: May 28, 2018 Title: Chapter 1: Chapter 1

If this is what happens when you can't stop writing smutty oneshots, you should never, ever stop writing them!

I mean, I was sold from the line "Is it more... than this?" Yes Karen. Yes it is.

For as sexy as this was (and it was!), it was also funny (I chuckled every time Jim decided that something else was the hottest thing he'd ever seen) and sweet. And you conveyed all of it without them saying a single word to each other. That's really incredible, and you're such a talented writer - I don't think any of us would mind if you just kept churning out stories like this. ;)

Author's Response: Thank you so much, Coley! I appreciate your reading and reviewing a lot. I’m so glad you thought it was funny, too, because I giggled like an idiot at parts of this and I hoped that that carried over when people read it, so I’m so glad that it did! Be on the lookout for more—like I said, I can’t seem to stop!

Summary: Life is a journey full of highs and lows. Jim and Pam discover this from the first time they met and onwards.
Categories: Jim and Pam, Past
Characters: Jim/Pam
Genres: Drama
Warnings: Adult language, Mild sexual content, Violence/Injury
Series: Jamie and Morgan
Chapters: 25 Table of Contents
Completed: Yes Word count: 145406 Read Count: 23828 ePub Downloads: 22
[Report This] Published: June 09, 2018 Updated: March 14, 2019
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Date: October 04, 2018 Title: Chapter 8: Mini-Golf

You already know I’m a huge fan of your writing, but here’s what I’m realizing as I read this chapter. (I’m so happy to be reading this story again, btw!) I’m a really huge fan of your Jim. He’s just honestly great, and he’s so genuinely happy when Pam is happy. It’s hard to write that without it coming off as over the top and cheesy and you do a really great job with it.

This was a fun chapter! I always love seeing intepretations of the famed golf outing, but I think this is the first time I’ve giggled over Dwight and his one blue ball.

Author's Response: Thank you. I'm glad my interpretation of Jim comes across well. Especially during these early years pre-camera. Dwight was also great fun to write here. I''m glad you're back and thanks for all the reviews.

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Date: March 17, 2019 Title: Chapter 25: Epilogue

I'm not shy about saying that Niagara is my favorite episode of the series, but I'm always a little disappointed that we don't get to see any of the reception. It's always nice to see how others think that reception might have gone... This is no exception.

This is a cute and satisfying ending that wraps up the last loose thread of an amazingly detailed and intricate story! You pulled off a story of epic proportions and didn't lose sight of the characters at the heart of it. Great job!

Author's Response: Thank you so very much for this and every other review you've written here. As well as comments during chats that have helped shape this story. It wouldn't have been the same without your input. I'm very glad you've enjoyed it so much. It was a fun story to bring to life and I'm very glad others enjoyed it too. I'm a little sad to not be working on it anymore, but there are other stories to write as well. Again, thank you so very much.

Reviewer: Coley Signed
Date: March 17, 2019 Title: Chapter 24: The Hunt

Lord knows I love a good scavenger hunt! Good job, Pam!

What a lovely and fun look back through their history, from present and going back and I'm sure there are a million little bits I could point out that are adorable and cute, but here's the thing Warrior -- all I can think about is the fact that Jim is doing wind sprints. He's doing wind sprints instead of trying to get to Pam. Oh Jim.

I mean, you nailed it, Warrior. There was a lot of build up to this chapter, and it's everything it should and needed to be!

Author's Response: To be fair, he didn't know where to meet Pam while he was running those wind sprints. And he only had to run 5 this time rather than all the ones he did back in high school.

Thanks. It was a ton of fun to have this trip down memory lane. My first thought was to have all the notes Pam wrote him to be in poetry, but your comment in a chat awhile back when I floated the idea as well as my feeling that it would hard to come up with poems for everything nixed that. 

I'm very glad you liked how this chapter turned out.

Reviewer: Coley Signed
Date: March 17, 2019 Title: Chapter 23: Memorial Day and Beyond

Aww, look at Pam sucking up to Jim's parents. I see you and your whiskey lessons, Warrior.

Good to see Betsy how I like my Betsys... cheerful and lovely and not hating Pam for all of the drama that really, her own son was responsible for, but still, I get why Pam felt the needed to play nice and I'm glad it worked in her favor.

We're finally here! The reveal is about to happen and... I definitely didn't see this coming! To be fair, I don't remember the conversations from the first chapter, so I had to go back because I didn't get where we were going with this whole stink bomb thing. Good to see Pete and Tom are sticking with classic pranks, even all these years later! Makes me feel better about slamming my cousins' hands into butter every thanksgiving for 8 years running now.

I like that Pam is the one figuring it out and I love that she's confiding everything to Larissa for confirmation.

Oh Beesly, what are you planning??

Author's Response: Three fold reason for the whiskey lesson. One, write what you know and writing is easier. Two, because way back in the Mini-Golf chapter I'd written that Ger-Bear was big into whiskey and it gave me to chance to explore that. Three, the lesson primed Pam's mind to have smell trigger memory as happened with the stink bomb.

Thanks about the critique about Betsy. I've usually always seen her pictured as a warm woman and saw no reason to change that.

Glad I could keep the suspense up with the first reveal. I'd had the image of Pam kneeling on the floor going through the box since I started writing this story and it was fun to finally bring that out. If I recall a review of yours a while back, you were saying you'd like it if the sisters had a role in the reveal. I'd already been planning on Larissa being a part of that, but it's fun when things line up like this.

As for what Pam has in mind? Well I'm sure you'll find out soon, but it's a lot of fun.

Reviewer: Coley Signed
Date: March 17, 2019 Title: Chapter 22: Clearing the Air

Full confession: I am like, one of maybe 7 people in the world who turns the station every single time Africa comes on. Oh Pam, I was fully on your side in this story until that song choice. ;)

I like that we're skipping past the first date and going right into the good stuff. And I very much love that Pam's the one being all, "nah, we're not done with tonight yet, I'm coming over." BUT.

WARRIOR.

MAN.

The idea that Jim didn't sleep with Karen OR Katy?? Bold move, Warrior. Bold, bold move. As much as I loathe Karen, I'm not sure she's the type that would have moved states/stuck around a dead-end town for a guy she hadn't gotten past first base with. I'm very curious as to your reasoning for this!

This is quite the showdown between Karen and Jim (especially if they aren't banging! lol, I'm sorry, I'm kidding) but like, good to see Jim bounce back here a little and get his balls back and stand up for the woman he loves. That's what we like to see!

Good discussions between them, getting everything out into the open so they can move forward with clean slates. Hopefully Jim learned his lesson and stays away from paper shredders from now on.

OOoh, time to meet the parents! This should be great!

Author's Response: Hopefully Pam's reasoning for liking the song was reason to include it. I had to get at least one more "almost finding out moment," in there. The whole Jim and Karen not sleeping together thing was another one of those Season 3 things I'd thought about, but it got edited out to move onto more important issues for this story. Again it's one of those things I might go back and re-visit sometime later. Another reason was my wanting my story to be a little more unique than most other stories I've read here. Same thing as to why Jim goes off on Karen rather than the other way around. 

Jim and Pam having those discussions are my way of making sure they're ready for other big things that might be coming in their relationship.;) But yes Jim has learned his lesson about paper shredders.


Reviewer: Coley Signed
Date: March 17, 2019 Title: Chapter 21: Refining Fire

Ooh, big time jump! There is a lot going on here. It's interesting to think about what happened immediately after Dwight pepper-sprayed Roy and it makes sense that the police and an ambulance would have been called to the scene. And that Roy would be an ass through the whole thing.

Nice little bit with Ethan putting Dwight in his place, though. That made me laugh.

Excellent synopsis and intuitive look at Pam during the coal walk. I gotta say, I'm liking Pam's growth here.

And now we're to "It's a date!"... at least I have a pretty good idea where we're going from here!

Author's Response: There were more ideas I had for stuff in Season 3, but I kept thinking, "I've already been dragging this whole Jim and Pam don't know they're Jamie and Morgan," thing on long enough so that meant a big time jump to more important things in the story. I might still write some of those other Season 3 ideas as one shots though. 

Always fun when Dwight it put in his place like that. Dwight is mostly bluster and doesn't really stand a chance against people who actually know what they're talking about. 

Pam's growth was always a lot of fun. Yes we see her grow in the show, but there had to have been more off camera to help it along which was fun to explore.

Reviewer: Coley Signed
Date: March 17, 2019 Title: Chapter 20: Visitors

It's not often that I prefer the Beesly family to the Halperts but I gotta say.. I'm not their biggest fan this chapter! I don't know, man, if my family stormed into my place uninvited and started to unpack my things and dump my booze, I'd kick them out.

This is a rough chapter to feel for Jim too...like, he made these choices - the choice to leave, the choice not to go to Australia, the choice to start a new job -- suck it up, buttercup!

...Which is why I kind of laughed when he shredded her letter -- that's just another choice you're gonna have to deal with, buddy.

Now let's go see what Jim can do to get back on track and become the guy we all know and love again. Here's hoping he doesn't let me, or Pam, down.

Author's Response: Yeah I was going for tough love on the part of the Halpert's here. And the whole suck it up buttercup is kind of what his Dad and Johnathan are telling him. Yeah, I'd be angry if my booze got dumped, but again sometimes when you love someone you need to save them from themselves. Better a few bottles get dumped now, than a much more destructive cycle start up. 

Reviewer: Coley Signed
Date: March 17, 2019 Title: Chapter 19: Choosing to Move

Wait, so Pam found an apartment and packed up her things before even telling Roy that she was calling off the wedding? Interesting take! I wonder what Roy was thinking for those 2 weeks while she was at Penny's and not home.

It's funny to me that even just a few years ago, when this chapter was taking place - the preferred method is sending a letter vs. email. I'm sure that *nothing* will go wrong with this plan! Right? Right?

And I hate to break it to you, but Beauty and the Beast beats The Lion King in every way possible. :)

Author's Response: What was Roy thinking? Probably something along the lines of, "Glad she's not bugging me with any of this wedding stuff. What game is on tonight?" I was trying to do a couple different things with this story than I've seen in many other places. Thus having Pam be set to move out like this before she actually takes off her ring and gives it back to Roy.

Could Pam have sent an email? Sure, but that's a lot less personal. 

And while I appreciate the fact that Belle told Gaston to go kick rocks, there's no way a chick with Stockholm Syndrome beats a retelling of classic Shakespeare set on the African Savannah while Elton John music plays in the background. 

Reviewer: Coley Signed
Date: January 07, 2019 Title: Chapter 18: Aftermath

I LOVE Pam having this support system so much! We never really saw that on the show at all, but I adore that her sister and her friends and her mom are all there to just do whatever it is she needs, no questions asked. And I love Pam turning to the people she trusts the most to help her figure things out -- it's one thing to have that internal dialogue with yourself when trying to sort out a mess - its entirely different when you have to say those things out loud to someone else, and we don't really see that when it comes to these two, so that was a nice touch.

Helene cutting down Roy at every turn? Brilliant.

OMG, even the toy heart is broken? It's fine. I'll be fine. ;)

Author's Response: That's the thing with the show we rarely got to see outside friends and family. Granted that's probably due to the budget constraints of hiring guest actors and the like, but I just don't see that Pam was 100% alone when she called off the wedding. Having Helene cut down Roy was fun, but that's also because to my mind Roy is still mentally a teenager and thus when an adult that he can't control comes around he stands no chance against them. The broken heart was always how I planned on ending this chapter, seemed appropriate to me.

Reviewer: Coley Signed
Date: December 06, 2018 Title: Chapter 17: Bonus Gifts

Oh, you bet I went into this chapter determined to find all 3 shout outs. How fun and very cool! :)

This was such a great chapter - ugh, stupid Roy thinking he was going to get the iPod for himself. I loved the sneak peek into Jim and Pam's minds as the gift exchange was going on, and how Pam ultimately decided to get back the teapot. And yeah good call - I'm glad she washed it.

Happy Teapot Day!

Author's Response: Thanks. It was a ton of fun to add in all the bonus stuff in this chapter. I hope it was a nice surprise for you. I'd been looking forward to this chapter for a long time. Glad it came across well.

Reviewer: Coley Signed
Date: November 26, 2018 Title: Chapter 16: The Party

Is Mark’s girlfriend’s name Emily or Lisa? ;)

God, I love this party. It’s just so obvious to literally everyone and those two idiots just can’t admit what’s in front of them.

She had the picture right there, Warrior! She had the proof in her hands and STILL we wait. That was good. Frustrating, but good!

I 100% believe Pam was too drunk to go home that night. I love that Jim is still making a playlist and I LOVE that I think I know what the next chapter is and I cannot wait for it!

This is still so great. I’m loving each update.

Author's Response: Did I forget to switch names there? I'll have to go back and look through. Thanks for the heads up. Yup she had the picture, but as she was focusing on Jim not the background, and also because Jim tried to steal it quickly she didn't have time for a close inspection. I've been grinning evily at all these missed chances. Don't worry, there will be a reveal and if all goes according to plan, it should be epic. Thanks for sticking with this.

Reviewer: Coley Signed
Date: November 19, 2018 Title: Chapter 15: Mixed Up

"I hope you can spot all the things..." Watch Coley grab her pen and paper like this is a puzzle.

BUTTERFLY DAY. Stop it Warrior, Stop it right now. This Jim is too much in the best of ways and I love this peek into his brain.

There's so much going on here. Secret Santa pickings, The Dundies, Drunk Pam, Smitten Jim. I can't even pick a favorite.

That's a lie. I'm saying it again. This Jim is one of my favorite variations I've ever seen! It's rare that we get a look into his side of things and see him just so blatantly in adoration of this girl he works with. It's so good. The playlist he's making her! And the IMs! JEFF. That got me good. That was great.

And then the end... I can't even tell you how much I love that the reason Pam wants to keep their kiss a secret isn't because she feels guilty about it, but that she wants to keep it just between them. Well them, and the film crew but I digress.

Author's Response: Thank you. It was a lot of fun to write this chapter. And after the whole SNL thing I figured that had to get in there somehow. It's amazing what fans will pick up on from just one or two words from the actors or actresses of their favorite things. Glad you liked it so much. It's been a lot of fun figuring out the reasons for why the things that went into the teapot did so.

Reviewer: Coley Signed
Date: October 24, 2018 Title: Chapter 14: Recovery

No joke - I screamed when I got the boggle timer part. I didn’t even see it coming!

Pam’s running internal dialogue throughout this chapter is sweet and heartbreaking at the same time. They’re so close, but still so far away from each other.

I love your take on the Halpert family - Gerald and Betsy seem like good people and I’m glad Pam’s comfortable around them.

I admit, I had my hopes up when Pam and Larissa started talking about high school Jim... and then Pam was almost there when realizing the parallels between Roy hitting Jim and Roy hitting Jamie... well done, master storyteller!

Jim’s okay! I was pretty sure he would be but I’m very glad to see he’s out of the hospital and back in the office where he belongs.

Can’t wait for the next chapter! Excited to see what you come up with next :)

Author's Response: I've very glad this chapter came across so well. At times I had thoughts that there was a little to much going on. Thanks again for the help earlier. Like I said it got the cogs turning and helped get this chapter out. They did come close to figuring things out this time, but no, they're not ready for that knowledge yet. Glad you liked it so much.

Reviewer: Coley Signed
Date: October 04, 2018 Title: Chapter 12: Class 1

This is great! It’s like I got a little of my beloved Grey’s Anatomy in the middle of a Jam fic and speaking as a sucker for left field drama... I’m totally for this. At least, I am now that I know he’s pulse is back. It seemed like he was down for a long time though, but maybe it just felt like that because I was so into what I was reading.

He’s okay, right? Right?

Author's Response: Thank you. I'm sure for family members an event like this does seem to drag out. I blame TV for that one. There's only so much time a show can spare but in the real world stuff like this takes a long time. Glad you liked it.

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Date: June 12, 2018 Title: Chapter 1: First Meeting

Okay, I'm into this. I'm super curious to find out how Jamie and Morgan transform into Jim and Pam. Can't wait to read more!

Author's Response: Thank you. Like my story description says, it's going to be a journey. I hope to do both the characters of both Jim and Pam justice regardless of what ups and downs may come. Thanks for the support.

Reviewer: Coley Signed 1
Date: June 19, 2018 Title: Chapter 2: Nights to Remember

Aww, Fancy New Jamie. I love that.

Plus, a Meemaw shoutout, I don't know what that made me smile but it did.

Okay, we've got Jim and Pam now... now we wait. Can't wait to see what happens next!

Author's Response: Thanks. There's just far to many good lines in the show to not use them from time to time. Next chapter is coming, life gets in the way of writing sometimes, but hopefull it'll be up before the weekend.

Reviewer: Coley Signed
Date: June 20, 2018 Title: Chapter 3: Fractured

Ugh Roy. I’m finding it hard to feel bad for the guy here. I DO feel bad for Pam though.

What I like a lot about this chapter, and this story in general so far is that even though it was just one meeting years ago, Pam still hasn’t forgotten Jim and she still thinks and talks about him. I think most people have that kind of thing in their lives and it’s nice to watch it play out - it’s a good hopeful feeling.

Roy can go kick rocks though.

Author's Response: Yeah, Roy's not the greatest. It's really easy to just paint Roy as this real jerk of a character based on what we've seen in the show. However Pam did start going out with him for a reason and stayed with him for a reason too. So to my mind it's not that he's this intentionally super-jerk, just that he peaked in high school and never really grew from there.

Other than that, picked up on a theme there did you? We may have to play with that some more in future chapters.

Thanks for the review.

Reviewer: Coley Signed
Date: June 28, 2018 Title: Chapter 4: Looking Ahead

See ya, Jess! I liked the idea that Jim was in a serious relationship for so long... that seems really in line with his character. Always good to see Larissa pop in and set him straight too!

The wings and salt prank made me cringe at the idea of how awful that had to taste but it sure gives us a glimpse of the prank loving Jim we all know and love! And your Michael was fantastic. That whole interview scene had me laughing.

Author's Response: I actually pulled that wings prank back when I was in high school. The results were amazing. Didn't do the salt bit, but it's also a classic prank. Glad you enjoyed the interview scene. It was a little tricky to write, but I like how it ended up. I figured I had to give Jim at least one serious relationship before Pam since I had him single in high school. That way he learns how to be a good boyfriend prior to meeting Pam. Thanks for the review.

Reviewer: Coley Signed
Date: July 05, 2018 Title: Chapter 5: A Lot of Reasons

I didn't think it was possible to hate Roy anymore than I already do, but here we are. What a jerk. Although, I'd kind of be interested in seeing some of those counseling sessions.

I was so sad that Pam lost the picture and then so happy that she got it back! And he's right there! Will they recognize each other?! Definitely looking forward to the next chapter!

Author's Response: To me Roy is a guy who peaked in high school. He may be an adult legally, but like many other males, doesn't know how to me a man much less a gentleman. Thus me writing him the way I've been. I was quite proud of myself when I thought up the bookends for this chapter with the picture. Especially the way I've had the chapter end. Lots of evil grins I assure you. As for what's coming, well we'll just have to wait and see but I assure you I'll do my best to write it well.

Reviewer: Coley Signed
Date: October 04, 2018 Title: Chapter 13: ROSC

Aww, yay Ethan! We love when the good guys get a win.

As a side note, apart from Jim and Pam - thank you for this little look into your day to day! It’s so important to remember that it’s not at all like what we see on tv, and that you’re out there doing really, really good work that definitely isn’t easy and is, I’m sure at times, super emotional. Thanks for that reminder :)

Now I’m going to go make sure our AED is up to date and see when the next CPR training is for the office.

Author's Response: Trust me I love when we get one in the win column too. Most of the time my "wins" come not from Class 1 saves as we call them, but from other calls. Using a medicine called Narcan to correct a heroin overdose for example. Helping the fire department pull people out of the crushed cars after and accident and getting them to the hospital. When a patient tells me "I'm a hard IV start," and I get the IV on the first try. Stuff like that.

Glad to know you're looking into your AED and CPR class. Like I (or in this case Ethan) said the more people who know how to use an AED and perform good CPR the better.

Thanks for all the reviews as well. It means a lot to know people are still keeping up with this story.

Reviewer: Coley Signed
Date: October 04, 2018 Title: Chapter 11: Shot to the Heart

I’m out of jellybeans for this story so let’s pretend I’m handing them out with every review going forward.

I like your take on this episode! It never occurred to me that Pam wouldn’t know they didn’t have to come in on Saturday.

A Larissa sighting! I have to say, I love your using these sisters to bring in so much of Jim and Pam’s backstory. I wouldn’t hate it at all if they were the ones who finally solved the mystery of Jamie and Morgan. Just saying.

Well! That’s a mean cliffhanger! I’m kind of glad I don’t have to wait to read the next chapter. Off I go... Jim better be okay!

Author's Response: Yeah I went back and watched and Roy and Pam left before Micheal gave everyone else the day off. And who would tell her? Jim clearly, but as I mentioned he was kind of down after hearing the hot tub comments right as Pam was leaving. Roy for sure wouldn't care enough to double check. So there's Pam by herself on a Saturday sitting at her desk.

Don't worry Larissa and Penny will both have parts to play later. We rarely got the main cast interacting with friends outside DM in the show, but I don't think that's as true to life. I get that it's a show and you have to stay on your cast, but still. So we'll be seeing them again.


Reviewer: Coley Signed
Date: October 04, 2018 Title: Chapter 10: Murals and Marriage

I’ve said it before and I’m going to say it again. Roy. Is. The. Worst.

That said, I did enjoy this little peek into their counseling session. Let’s hope it was as eye opening for Pam as it was for me! Roy is just... ugh, I don’t even feel bad that his dad died anymore.

I did like Pastor Dan though. His comments were a nice touch and seemed very true to life. See? Even he knows this marriage is a bad idea. Pam just needs to get there.

I hope Roy’s team lost the game that day though.

Author's Response: Grief can hold a powerful effect on people. Even years after an event. That's kind of what I was going for with Roy in this chapter. Yes even if it means he acts like this. I'm glad Pastor Dan came across well. It was a challenge to try and make him approachable for anyone without being to preachy.