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Reviewer: grc73 Signed 1 [Report This]
Date: April 08, 2021 02:22 pm Title: Shiny Stuff

Yes!!!!!!! I love that Pam called David! This story is so beautifully written, Max, I don't mind you dragging it out at all ;)

Author's Response:

We need more David in the fics. I think David is a underappreciated, underutilized fic character - the man had unending patience with Michael, Andy and all the shenanigans that went on over the years -kind of surprised he drew the line at Jan (but she may have proved to be batsh*t in the end)...I thought about giving him some lines but decided this was not the place and leave it to readers to imagine that kind man's convo with Pam.

I thank you for the reviews and jelly beans and for joining me on this journey. It always makes the it so much more satisfying to share when you know others are along for the ride and your words and ideas are being appreciated and felt by others.

 So jelly beans back to you.

 

 

 

Reviewer: Basscop69 Signed 1 [Report This]
Date: April 05, 2021 06:14 am Title: Shiny Stuff

I loved Jim’s note to Pam so much. I think (provided this doesn’t end in heartbreak 😱) that the idea of Jim leaving something behind deliberately, and having enough faith in Pam that he believes she’ll get there, is actually so much nicer than him just accidentally leaving an umbrella. And then the callback to the time a yogurt pot lid brought Jim back, and Pam appreciating what he gave up for her then, was just lovely. I really love how you’ve written all of their emotions and thought processes in this. (Also loving Clark here, lol). And now I’m actually on the edge of my seat for the next chapter!

Author's Response:

I'm so glad you think so and it allowed me to give the umbrella symbolism that was inspired by the Setting Sail lyrics (last chapter but anyway).

The note also inspired by the lyrics to the Gold song (Jake Isaac/India Arie) but I felt it didn't need to be many words, as I said about Pam's note too - it was more about the lid that spoke volumes.

Glad you like the Clark bit. He seemed to bring the humor in the episode and since he was still pretty new I thought he'd be pretty uncomfortable with a crying Pam and would react as such.

I hope you will enjoy what's coming next.  

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed 1 [Report This]
Date: April 03, 2021 08:00 pm Title: Shiny Stuff

I love Jim's note to her. Simple, profound, and heartfelt. Really seemed to resonate with her too. Of course she gets the parallel with her note to him. I think you're right in that usually Pam is the one to be slow about change. She has moments where she leaps before she looks, but for the most part she doesn't do that. So it makes sense for me that she'd want to call David and really get to the bottom of everything.

So Jim took the cab not to the bus station but to the park. That's really interesting. It feels like he's trying to surround himself in memories where they were at their best or most powerful.

So now Pam seems ready to do something big. But of course there's another wrinkle. Hopefully it's nothing to big that Andy has cooked up for her. Also Clark was a bit of an ass there.

In regards to S9, yeah it was kind of hard to see more angst with Jim and Pam. However I also think that S9 is among the reasons why Jim and Pam are so relatable. It's not get married and happily ever after with them. The do get married, they are clearly still in love with each other, but there's still things and issues to work on. That's life. It's hard, it's messy, and there are ups and downs. I think it was a bold choice to have Jim and Pam go through some of that, even if it broke our hearts a little bit.

Author's Response:

First off Happy Easter. Hope you are enjoying.

Yes, the message is simple but i didn't think it needed more. Glad you agreed. (plus it had the lyrics tie-in)

Anyway, it was more about the symbolism of the lid, now more than ever because of the traditions that they'd created with them.

In one respect I always felt there was a sort of symbiosis in the way they approached things. And most of the time it worked and worked well. And maybe it still will.

So my cliffhanger worked - wasn't sure if it would be seen right through after last chapter so I'm pleased it created a bit of the tension I was going for. I find that's always interesting to read/watch. 

But it still is meant to be in the world of The Office and that means Andy and he was quite the tool in season 9.

The Clark bit was derived from the show (see script below) - I pulled from the script and then elaborated. I was going for he might have been feeling a little uncomfortable around her as she cried and not sophisticated and not sure what do do so he made jokes. I guess he was a little bit of an ass though. But it made for a good chapter title I thought.

Pam: Uh, to speak my truth, I'd appreciate if you hung that up cause we were in the middle of a conversation. [Jim hangs up phone]

 I appreciate the sacrifice.

Jim: Ok to speak my truth, that was a little sarcastic. I think that's a little unfair.

Pam: Really? I've been putting the kids to bed by myself every night for a months. And you had to miss one phone call. Is that your truth, Jim? That's really your truth?

Jim: I guess I will swallow my truth.

Clark: Are you guys high? Because if so, to speak my truth, I would appreciate the sacrifice of including me in some hits off your kind buds.

Pam: We're not high.

Absolutely, I only think they had more story there, which maybe it was not possible since it would have had to happen in their heads and hearts and that's not so easy to do in a sitcom. Sure the flashback to the wedding and the verse was helpful as was the hug but IMO there needed to be more to get them back. And that's what I hoped I was able to get across in this fic.

Thanks as always for reading and sharing your thoughts. That's what is so rewarding about this community.  

 

Reviewer: BigTuna Signed 1 [Report This]
Date: April 03, 2021 04:38 pm Title: Shiny Stuff

I’ve been so terrible about reading and reviewing on MTT lately (or for a while), so I am trying to best to play catch up! I love that you are tackling the hard job of writing a season 9 fic, and lady I think you are doing an excellent job.

Season 9 is so difficult. Any of us who have been in a long term relationship or marriage know how easily things can start to break down if you don’t constantly communicate and keep each other abreast of how you are feeling. And it’s not easy to be honest and vulnerable, even with the person you love the most and have built a life with. I think that you’ve done an excellent job with showing that through their internal monologues, the letters and assignments, the small ways they try to reach out to each other while still dancing around the big hard discussions because they are big and hard. And you’re doing it with some really lovely moments and imagery; I especially love the bits about sunrise and sunset.

I know a lot of people have a lot of feelings about season 9 and the arc that it took Jim and Pam on. I don’t think we can say “Pam’s a selfish bitch” without ending that sentence with “and so was Jim,” because that is the truth. Jim was uncommunicative and secretive and Pam was uncommunicative and scared, and it brought out the worst in both of them. I don’t think it’s fair to paint Jim as the good guy in season 9 (and you didn’t, but I’m a bit hot under the collar about another review you’ve received) because working full time, single parenting, and wondering if your relationship is going to fall apart isn’t easy and wanting to keep your family intact isn’t selfish. Especially when there are clear instances of Jim having an absolute blast in Philadelphia without checking in on Pam or the kids and not attempting to put herself in her shoes. The thing about season 9 is that they both make awful decisions and it isn’t until towards the end of the season that they look at the issue as “us vs the problem” and not “me vs you.” But I shouldn’t take something that someone who thinks that having the thought process of an artist means you can’t understand how a fictional start up works says seriously.

Anyway my own feelings about your other reviews aside, I think you are doing an excellent job with a heavy subject. Jim and Pam both feel in character and easy to sympathize with, and we see how events like this in a marriage can be so hard to reconcile. I look forward to seeing how you take us through along the rest of their rocky path and back into the sunshine.

Author's Response:

Hello BT-  

First off thanks for taking the time to read and share your thoughts. I said it before and will repeat it again, I never thought I'd be writing a season 9 fic but once I was inspired to, it kinda took over. I originally thought this would be a one-shot and not a multi-chapter.

Season 9 was difficult because of the Pam and Jim arc but as someone who has been married for long enough to know it wasn't without truth and realism. As I said, marriage is work - it needs to be cared for, even if you are soul mates, especially if you are soul mates. And we know sometimes these 2 forget to communicate - thinking they know everything the other might be thinking (this is shown in the Roy's Wedding episode). I know you agree there.

It was not my intention to show either side as right or wrong, and like you say they needed to stop looking at it from a me vs you and get to the heart of the problem. And that took some soul searching and outside help. Some thinking about their own history and remembering how they felt when all they wanted was each other and there was an obstacle in the way. I'm glad you feel I've been able to show both of them coming to realize where they made mistakes and how to get back. I'm so please you liked the sunrise/sunset parts. I was very into writing those. Where I live we get some unbelievable sunrises/sunsets and that was a vision I wanted to bring to life - plus there was the symbolism I hope came across. 

I think the show (by the nature of it being a sitcom) glossed over some of the journey to get there and that was what I hoped to bring out a bit more. I loved the hug and the flashback to the wedding but I did feel that alone was just a first step. However in a sitcom it's hard to get at what might have been in their heads and pleased you feel that is coming across and in their voices.

Without saying too much (as it will be said when I'm done), there was something in the timing. 

Once again I want to thank you for reading and sharing your thoughts. It's truly one of the things I love most about this community, the way in which we can connect through shared love of reading, writing and Jam.

Hope you enjoy the ending. 

 

 

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed 1 [Report This]
Date: April 03, 2021 11:49 am Title: Shiny Stuff

Idk. I really liked this chapter. The way they're straining to understand each other, bringing in their knowledge of who the other is, wrestling with their history and their sense of their own flaws. Very real... and probably pretty healthy.

Author's Response:

Very real - that is quite a compliment  - so thank you.

Was there something that you didn't feel? The Idk you start with.

It was a journey to get them to where they are- something I'm not sure they were able to portray through the show since it happened in their heads. 

Thanks for coming on the journey with me and always sharing your thoughts. 

 

 

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