10 [Report This]Date: March 23, 2010 02:00 pm Title: I think when I like someone again, I'll just kinda know.
So, I first read this back when you published it in, what, 2007? And then this morning, at, like, 5:00 a.m., I woke up and my first immediate thought was, "I need to find that Pam/Ryan story and reread it. That was fantastic." And now, several hours later, even though I haven't read Office fanfic in years, and stopped watching the show months ago, here I am, grinning from ear to ear because I just love this story so, so much. I want this Ryan. Also, I really need to bookmark it so I don't have to search forever next time.
Date: December 09, 2009 12:30 am Title: I think when I like someone again, I'll just kinda know.
really well written! :)
i'm a severe ryan hater, but i really enjoyed this!
Date: August 27, 2009 10:55 am Title: I just don't want it to be weird... you know?
uh OH MY GOD! wow what an exciting chapter!!!!
Date: August 26, 2009 10:00 pm Title: Anybody making out in here? Not yet, give it time.
you got it, i'm really split. so far i'm leaning towards liking ryan, because even though karen's acting so nice (what's with that? is she just drunk???) jim's still weird. but now they've forgiven each other, so i guess he's just too shy to say how he feels. by the way, just wanted to say somewhere, i'm so excited for the premiere this season!!
Date: August 26, 2009 06:22 pm Title: Hold on, its gonna be a bumpy one
ooohhh! i can tell this is going to be a good one! i love the anger in it (how can a person love anger?!?), yet you can see flecks of romance along with it, a nice contrast.
i probably won't review for a bit, just reading, but it'll review again at some point for sure.
9 [Report This]Date: June 25, 2009 11:40 am Title: Anybody making out in here? Not yet, give it time.
Awesome work so far! I love it! I want Jim and Pam to get together so badly - some secret rendezvous! I'll just have to wait and see! I never loved Ryan, but you make him bearable! :)
10 [Report This]Date: February 27, 2009 12:08 pm Title: I think when I like someone again, I'll just kinda know.
That was completely wonderful.
How it went back and forth, you could sense her hesitation and trying to choose between what her head thought she wanted and what her heart felt - just excellent. I LOVED IT.
10 [Report This]Date: September 12, 2008 05:58 pm Title: Hold on, its gonna be a bumpy one
I don't think I've ever reviewed this story before, so I just wanted to thank you for writing it. I re-read it all the time! I'm so glad you didn't give into popular opinion and have Pam end up with Jim, despite probably getting a lot of negative comments about that. I love any (fan)fictional universe where Ryan and Pam get together. I hope you write more Pam/Ryan things in the future!
Date: August 30, 2008 07:07 pm Title: Anybody making out in here? Not yet, give it time.
Blah.....Ryan....
Date: August 15, 2008 09:23 pm Title: I think when I like someone again, I'll just kinda know.
Oh my god! This story was amazing! I don't even know where to begin! For one thing, you got the characters down perfectly. It all felt very... real. And for another, you got me to like Ryan! I guess he was the only one who was out of character, but he still felt real, too. Like, if he had randomly become nice and developed a thing with Pam, this is how it would have gone down.
And there was just the perfect dosage of humor (so funny) and angst and the sexy stuff. And you wrote in such a way that made me feel so empathetic for Pam. I personally would have chosen Jim (poor Jim got rejected a whopping three times now by Miss. Beesley), but the way you wrote this story made me glad she chose Ryan. And became friends with Karen.
So yeah, I just really loved this story. I had to take a break from reading it to go to work, and I was dying all day to know what happened next. And let me say one more time how real this story felt: it felt very, very real.
Date: June 19, 2008 06:45 pm Title: Hold on, its gonna be a bumpy one
Thanks for the response to my response, DF. I get where you're coming from. I'll keep your explanation in mind and re-read the story in a bit. I can see someone acting the way you describe for Pam; maybe it's just hard to get my head around the actual Pam doing it, if that makes sense... shock to the system and all. Thanks for the response and the story!
Date: June 19, 2008 12:05 pm Title: I think when I like someone again, I'll just kinda know.
I would definitely watch the Pam and Karen and Ryan in New York show.
One of the fun things that happens when you read an epic fic like this but after the fact is that you can fit so much of it in to what actually happened on the show. And while sure, Pam and Jim are the ones that actually got together, I think you were strangely prescient with a lot of the mood. Particularly hitting the graphic school element. Nice work!
Date: June 19, 2008 10:37 am Title: Hold on, its gonna be a bumpy one
The writing is very good (thematic development, pacing, grammar/syntax, et al.) The dialogue is pretty much spot on also. This story has stuck with me for two reasons-- one facet that is very unrealistic (Pam) and one that's very realistic/in character (Jim).
The unrealistic thing is how Pam gets with Ryan. This story starts only a few days after her second, final breakup with Roy, and his subsequent attack on Jim. A lot of her thoughts are going to be about processing this and her whole decade-long relationship with Roy. A lot of her other thoughts are going to be on her long and conflicted (currently, especially) relationship with Jim: jealousy, anger, hurt, longing, regret and attraction. I don't see a lot of immediate mental room for jumping into a new sexual relationship with Ryan, whom she doesn't even know or like that well at the beginning of the cruise. Given that she barely even tried to contact Jim in Stamford when they're both single and obviously attracted, and she's just gotten out of things with Roy (the only man she's ever slept with), it's hard to see her doing much more with Ryan than just beginning to develop a glimmer of attraction, certainly not making a love nest and flaunting it in front of Jim-- all in a couple days... spurring a little jealousy in Jim, perhaps, but not closing the door to him or making the situation desperate. Even if she does have a fling with Ryan it's hard to see her, after only a few weeks or a month, not even being able to perceive a possible relationship with Jim anymore, after years of wanting it on some level, at the end when he is newly single.
On the other hand, if you can take the budding Ryan relationship as a given, then Jim's behavior and the alternate-universe final outcome are intriguing, because Jim's conduct is very much in character, even though he seems like a jerk. Same character + different circumstances = different outcome. In the show, Jim breaks up with Karen and then comes back to Pam without 'holding onto the safety rail'. Be he has heard Pam's none-too-subtle Beach Games confession, Pam is single, and Jim has a lot of good history to draw on. So no safety rail but he knows the chances are good. Here, he makes the pathetic, jerky deal that he will break it off with Karen if Pam promises in advance to be waiting for him. It seems like his character is very different from canon but really the only thing that's changed is the external circumstance of Pam's new hookup with Ryan. It's just too much for Jim to handle given their history.
It reminds me of another fanfic (Nearing the Edge) where Pam has a car breakdown while Roy's out of town, a few days after the Booze Cruise, leading to Jim making his Casino-night confession much earlier, allowing him to stay in Scranton while Pam processes Jim vs. Roy, and eliminating the whole Stamford/Karen path. Funny how little random things, beyond anyone's control or even knowledge, can change the whole course of history! So I like this story for illuminating this truth.
Author's Response:
Wow! First off, thank you for this thoughtful review, I really appreciate you taking the time to explain what you did and didn't like about the story (instead of just - "This is totally not Pam! You suck!" haha). I really liked what you said about Jim, and how even this isn't the Jim we normally see, it COULD be him, given the situation. Fanfic is all about circumstances, in my opinion, and putting characters you love into new situations, so I'm so happy that you could see this Jim (I know quite a few people had trouble doing that when reading this).
As for Pam, I think we're approaching her differently. I completely see where you're coming from - how could she jump into something so quickly and shut off the possibility of Jim without fully knowing what could have been there, right? Basically, how I envisioned it was that Pam has spent her entire life with one guy, and the only time she's had to be single has been spent mooning over someone who supposedly isn't interested anymore. She gets back together with Roy, which ends up being an obvious mistake, so I think at least for her relationship with Roy, it's really over for her. I think that she would want a clean break from it.
And then there is Jim, who's got this steady relationship that she has to watch play out in front of her everyday. So, when the possibility of Ryan comes up, he's someone she's never even thought about and it takes her by surprise. It's a powerful feeling, when someone completely new is showing interest in you like that, which she's been lacking for such a long time. So, when things start out with him it's just kind of fun, but she's still got Jim on the brain. Plus, there's the added effect of being on a boat, away from work. So I think all that combined could explain her fling with Ryan at least. Then, when they get home everything is real again, it's not just vacation like it was before. She has to go back to staring at Jim and Karen everyday, even if Jim is showing a renewed interest in her.
I guess what I was trying to convey was that the trip changed Pam's perspective a bit (like with Jim's character - it could be all about circumstances). Like, she's only had two options this whole time (Roy or Jim), but now there is this completely unexpected third option. I think I just wanted the story to be about how, even though you can have this idea in your head of who you SHOULD be with, you could be wrong, and the right person could end up taking you completely by surprise. It isn't until the very end that Pam makes a decision about wanting to be with Ryan over Jim because she's maybe afraid of letting go of what she always thought would make her happy, instead of taking a risk. I think in that situation she might be even more prone to eventually taking that risk because she didn't take the risk with Jim at the end of S2, and regretted it.
Anyway, that is my completely rambling, probably incoherent response, but thank you so much for the review! I'm glad you got something out of it :)
Date: June 19, 2008 09:40 am Title: Well I heard they made out... and had sex.
I don't think I've mentioned yet how much I'm enjoying the subtle Pam/Angela friendship here.
Date: June 19, 2008 09:08 am Title: I did not do that. That sounds disgusting.
Whoa.
Date: June 19, 2008 08:57 am Title: Sparkling cider is very good.
I'm gonna have to side with Ryan on the speeches. I love President Whitmore's Indepence Day line. So awesome. Heh.
Date: June 18, 2008 12:34 pm Title: The suspense is just so exciting, isn't it?
I love friendly/catty/flirty/girlfriendy Karen/Pam.
Date: June 18, 2008 12:22 pm Title: Anybody making out in here? Not yet, give it time.
I never really think of Ryan in fic (except for a few Ryan/Karen ones that are really nice) but this is great. I like how you've worked around his onscreen doucheyness by excusing it as just "that place" making him crazy. And Pam definitely needs to loosen up a little!
Date: June 18, 2008 11:57 am Title: Hold on, its gonna be a bumpy one
Love the subtle details. Michael and Dwight being protective of Pam. Jim's angry neck.
Author's Response: Thank you so much! I hope you enjoy reading the rest :)
Date: May 26, 2008 10:10 pm Title: I think when I like someone again, I'll just kinda know.
Dude, so I've been grading all day and IT IS MISERABLE, and so to make it through I reread this WHOLE FIC, a chapter in between every so many exams. And ahhhh, IT IS SO GOOD. IT GIVES ME SO MANY RYAN/PAM FEELINGS. Greatest grading reward ever? YES.
Author's Response: HEE - YOU ARE SO ADORABLE AND I LOVE YOU A LOT FOR THIS <3
10 [Report This]Date: December 20, 2007 08:53 pm Title: I think when I like someone again, I'll just kinda know.
I'm not exaggerating when I say that this is one of my favorite stories ever. I think I've read it 5 or 6 times and it never gets old. I really like Pam/Ryan!
10 [Report This]Date: November 28, 2007 09:10 pm Title: Hold on, its gonna be a bumpy one
Wow. This was amazing. I have to say that I'm first and foremost a JAMer but this... wow. I was really rooting for Ryan from the beginning. You stayed so true to character without it getting stale. Seriously. One of the best fics I have ever read.
8 [Report This]Date: October 21, 2007 02:11 pm Title: I think when I like someone again, I'll just kinda know.
OK, I'll admit I was really disappointed to see Pam end up with Ryan. You made it convincing though. Jim was just too presumptuous. Thanks for the story!
8 [Report This]Date: October 21, 2007 01:13 pm Title: I love girl talk
Awww...the closet conversation is so sad. He had his chance and he didn't say anything. Those two are a mess and you capture that well.
8 [Report This]Date: October 21, 2007 12:40 pm Title: Anybody making out in here? Not yet, give it time.
Well, Jim IS being a jerk so I would tend to favor Ryan here. You're doing a good job of making me conflicted, that's for sure!
