- What is this site?
- How did the site come about and how long have you been around?
- Who are the site administrators?
- How do I contact the site administrators?
- JAM? CN? Beta? POV? What do all these terms and abbreviations mean?
- Is MTT on social media?
- Why should I register for a MTT account?
- I'm trying to register, but I'm getting the spam test question wrong, help!
- I've signed up, now how do I log in?
- I forgot my password and/or penname! What do I do now?
- How do I personalize my account?
- What social media info can I add? How do I fill out the social media fields?
- Can I create a 2nd account
- Can I change my Penname?
- Can I delete my account?
- What kinds of stories are allowed on this site?
- What pairings are allowed on the site?
- How do I submit stories?
- What are the ratings used on the site?
- What are the story categories, how do I add them?
- What are the other classifications? How do I add them?
- What is MTT's spoiler policy?
- What is a series?
- How do I add stories to a series?
- What is a beta reader? Do I need one?
- Where can I find a beta reader?
- How do I become a beta reader?
- Do you have any writing advice?
- How do I edit stories?
- How do I deleted chapters/stories?
- Are there any statistic on hits or on who has favorited me or my stories?
- What is "abandoning" a story?
- What does it mean to label a story as "available for adoption"?
- I don't want my name on a story anymore, but I'm willing to keep it posted (orphaning option)
- What are those little trophies I see next to certain stories?
- What are challenges?
- Can I participate in challenges?
- Can I submit challenge ideas?
- Can I search the archive for specific stories?
- What are off-site fics/recommendations?
- Can I download stories to my eReader?
- I have a Kindle and it won't open EPUB files, what should I do?
- I have another question or issue regarding the EPUB download.
- What is MTT's review policy?
- What else do I need to know about reviewing stories?
- What's the scoop on the little gold stars?
- I love this author/story. Is there a way for me to keep track of my favourite authors and stories?
- I see a "Put On Bookshelf" link when I browse stories, what is that?
- How does Bookshelf differ from Favorites?
- Do you have an interactive forum on MTT?
- Anything I should know about the message boards?
- I'm having a technical issues with the site
- I am not getting any email notifications
- I'm having trouble with an MTT member.
- I have received a harassing review/review reply
- I have received a spam review
- I suspect this story is plagiarized.
The More Than That Fanfiction Archive is a site dedicated to stories written using characters of the great NBC comedy The Office, and in particular, revolving around the relationship between salesman Jim Halpert and receptionist Pam Beesly. However, stories centered around any Office characters are welcome here. You can visit our main site with more content about The Office here .
This site arose out of the desire of many posters on the Television Without Pity Office boards (archived here) to have a welcoming environment to write and read fanfiction. Andi/sicokitty built this site, which was launched on July 9, 2006.
There are a few people who help maintain this archive. We all contribute to monitoring proper labeling of stories, appropriateness of reviews, and just ensuring this is a pleasant community to be in. We might send you emails from time to time if any issue arises. The current MTT team is: ftmill16 (who took over ownership in 2015), idnaoj80, and Ladama.
You can contact us via our contact form or email us directly at MTT.email@example.com . We encourage you to read this FAQ since it answers most basic questions, but if you have any other questions, don't hesitate to email us.
As you peruse the archive, you will probably run into a lot of slang terms related to the show, writing, or fanfic in general that you may not recognize. We have created a Glossary Page with some of the more commonly used terms and abbreviations.
We are indeed! Follow any or all of our accounts for announcements, Office/JAM tidbits, and plenty of other fun things!
- Twitter: @MoreThanThatFic
- Tumblr: morethanthatfic.tumblr.com
- Intsagram: MoreThanThat_JimPam
- Facebook: Morethanthatfic
You can read stories without registering. However when you have an MTT account, you can post stories, leave reviews, get story/author update notifications, add stories to your "bookshelf", save your favorites and download ePub books. You can register here. It's fast, free and painless. FYI We strongly suggest you add firstname.lastname@example.org to your contacts/safe list before registering to ensure proper delivery of MTT correspondence.
If you're sure you know the answer, make sure you are typing in just one word, more than 5 but less than 10 characters.
If you're not sure what the answer is, here's a hint: when Pam spots this object, she gasps and says the answer. Also something from this object makes an appearance in the next episode.If you're truly stumped, you can contact us .
Once you are registered, you can log in with your chosen penname(username) and password here: Login Page
The login page contains link to lost password and lost penname pages.
If you have forgotten your password, click here and enter the e-mail address with which you registered. A new password will be sent to you shortly. Once you log in with the new password, it's highly recommended to go to My Account > Edit Profile and change the password to something easier for you to remember.
If you have forgotten your penname, click here and enter the e-mail address with which you registered. An email containing your penname will be sent to you shortly.
Again, we recommend adding email@example.com to your contacts/safe lists before requesting passwords/pennames to ensure you get the email. If you are not receiving the password reset/penname recovery emails or you no longer have access to the email you used to register, please contact us and we will assist you!
Under "My Account" , you can go to "Edit Profile" to let other members know a little about you and provide contact information. If you go to "Edit Preferences", you can pick your favorite skin to be your default background whenever you are logged into the site. You can also set your notification preferences.
On your profile, you can add links to your MTT Forum profile, personal website, Twitter, Instagram, Tumblr, Fanfiction.net profile, ArchiveOfOurOwn profile and LiveJournal. We've attempted to make filling out the fields as straight-forward as possible but it may still be confusing, so here's a further breakdown:
- MTT Forum Profile: enter your username that you are registered under on the MTT Forums
- Website: do not include the "http://" in your URL.
- Twitter: Type just your username (you can include the @ or not)
- Tumblr: type only what appears before ".tumblr.com" If you have a redirected URL, put that in the website field.
- Instagram: Type just your username (do not include @)
- Fanfiction.net: Type your User ID number, NOT your penname (this ensures it will link to you even if you change your penname) You can find your FFN userid on your author profile or in Account > Settings
- ArchiveOfOurOwn: Type just your username. Do NOT type in any pseuds
- LiveJournal: Type just your username
Any social media fields you fill out should now appear as stylish icons on your profile!
Lastly, the links you add should be to your personal accounts/websites, any links to corporate accounts/websites will be removed.
In general we'd like people to stick with one account, but we understand there may be an occasional need for a 2nd account. If you do create a 2nd account, please either make it clear in the profile of both accounts that you have 2 accounts AND/OR message the mods and let us know so we can stay on track with everyone.
- Please refrain from creating a 2nd account you are having an issue with the email you used to register. Contact us first and we will assist you
- Penname recovery is now available, if you forgot your penname please use this feature instead of creating a 2nd account.
- Please DO NOT create a 2nd account because you want a different penname/username, we can change it for you (see next item).
- Absolutely DO NOT create a 2nd account to either puff up your own or a friend's review count, or to gang up on other MTT users. We will take disciplinary action against anyone found doing this including temporary and/or permanent suspension on one or both account.
Users can now request to have their penname changed by an admin. When logged in, use the contact form and send us a message stating what you'd like us to change your penname too. We will email you back to confirm you want the change. Once the name change is complete, all your stories and reviews will have your new name. This will also be your new login. Please note we will change your penname once.
Users cannot delete their own accounts, but can request account deletion by filling out and sending a contact form while logged in. Deletion is permanent, and your account and stories cannot be recovered once deleted!
If you do want to delete your account but are willing to leave your stories up for future fans to read and enjoy, you can "orphan" your work. Read more about it down the page .
See our Submission Rules for all the details but the short answer? We welcome original Office stories of any genre featuring any show characters and pairings (please see the next section about pairings).
However, any story containing the following activities will not be accepted: rape, bestiality, incest, relationships between adults and children, and the promotion of illegal activities. RPF (real person fiction) stories are also not permitted.
A number of authors discourage fanfiction based on their work. Check this list and try to avoid works by these novelists should you be planning a crossover (especially if they are known for bringing legal action)
For a long time the FAQs have stated that "Any original Office story, featuring any and all characters and pairings, is welcome" here on MTT. However we feel it's time to expand and clarify this statement regarding pairings.
The submission rules have been modified to state clearly at MTT it's preferred that pairings depicted in stories be canon pairings (in other words, romantic pairings that happened on the show).
Stories featuring non-canon pairings may still be submitted, but will be reviewed and approved or declined at the admins' discretion*. A non-canon pairing story stands a better chance of being approved if it's well-written and if the pairing is developed and believable. This rule also applies to pairing a show character and an OC (original character).
* For now we are exempting non-canon pairing stories published before May 2017 from this archive rule.
We understand wanting to explore different and unusual pairings in fanfiction, however this is neither the vision the founder of MTT had for the archive nor the direction we are interested in going now.
NEW! We have created a visual guide to help to submit your stories! Click here to check it out!
Before you start, please know there is no way to save drafts on this site so we recommend you have your story written out and saved on your own computer/in your cloud account/etc.
Next if you have not already done so, please register for an account. Once you've logged in, click on My Account and choose Add Story. The form presented there will allow you to submit your story. Your submission may be held and reviewed by an administrator before being published. This review will simply be a quick check that your submission follows the submission guidelines. If it does, your story will be made available to everyone. If not, we will contact you and explain what you will need to revise before we can let your story be published. This process may take up to 72 hours so we appreciate your patience.
Authors who consistently display good grammar & spelling, formatting, and adherence to the submission guidelines in their stories can earn "validation". Being a validated author means your future submissions won't be held for review and will be published immediately. However if an admin finds one of your submissions does not follow the guidelines, your validation will be revoked without notice.
K : suitable for all ages, should be free of coarse language, violence, or adult themes. (G)
K+ : suitable for ages 9+, may contain minor violent action and mild coarse language. Should not have other adult themes. (PG)
T : suitable for ages 13+, with some violence, minor coarse language, and minor suggestive adult themes. (PG13)
M : suitable for ages 16+ with non-explicit suggestive adult themes, some violence, or coarse language. (R)
MA : Content is only suitable for mature adults. May contain explicit adult themes.(NC17)
All stories must be rated correctly and have the appropriate warnings. All stories with references to alcohol or drug use must carry at least a T rating (not K or K+). In addition, all adult-rated stories (M or MA) are expected to be labelled with warnings describing what type of adult themes are explored in the story. For more detailed information on Warnings used on the archive, visit this page: Explanation of Archive Ratings and Warnings
Stories must be labelled in one of two main categories: Jim/Pam or Other. Stories must then be tagged as belonging to one or more of the following 6 subcategories:
- Past: Story takes place before the show
- Present: Takes place at the same time as the documentary but not what we have seen in episodes
- Future: Takes place a long time somewhere down the road.
- Episode-related: The story shows us missing scenes of an episode or deals with the internal monologues some characters may have had during certain scenes.
- Crossover: Characters from another TV show/movie/book interact with the Dunder-Mifflinites.
- Alternate Universe: The story takes place in another time and/or setting, or the story's premises differ dramatically from the show. Examples: Jim and Pam meeting in the 1940s, Michael Scott overseeing Dunder Mifflin Denver, Jim never coming to work at Dunder Mifflin, Pam being already married when she meets Jim.
Follow these steps to add categories to your story:
- In "Category Options", click either "Jim and Pam" or "Other" so it's highlighted.
- Click the [ > ] button in the middle, your selected category should move from the left box to the right box.
- You should see the subcategory options in the left box, select the one you want to add to your story
- Click the [ > ] button once again to move your selected subcategory to the right box.
Stories should be tagged with the appropriate characters, genres, and warnings. The "shift" button will allow you to select multiple tags in a row while using the "ctrl" button will allow you to select multiple non-adjacent options in the scroll down menus.
Characters Tags that are "Name/Name" (ex. Jim/Pam) indicate a romantic pairing and that the pairing is being explored in some way in your story. Please make use of the available pairing tags especially if the pairing involves Jim or Pam. If the two characters are in the story but no romantic relationship is being explored between them, they should be tagged separately.
Seeing that the show has finished airing, there's not really a need for new stories to carry spoiler warnings. However, if your story does take place during a certain season or certain episode, it is highly appreciated if you state which season/episode in the story summary. This makes your story more easily searchable, and is also a courtesy to newer fans who may have not gotten through all 201 Office episodes yet!
A series is a composed of numerous distinct stories that fit within the same universe. For example, you write a series of stories taking place before the camera crews arrive, or you create a universe where Dunder Mifflin is a college rather than a paper company. You can make a series open or closed. When a series is open, it means that any MTT member can add a story to it.
To create a new series, you must go under "My Account" and click "Add New Series". Once you've created it, it will allow you to add stories to it, and you can put checkmarks next to your currently uploaded stories belonging to the series. If you wish to add more stories to the series later on, you must use the "Manage Series" option, also found under "My Account".
A beta reader is someone who reviews a story before you publish it to the public, their level of involvement can vary from simply checking your spelling and grammar to helping you hammer out plot issues, characterization, dialogue. Either way a beta helps you get your story ready for the world!
You are not required to use beta readers to post stories on MTT, but we can say from experience that it is usually helpful to have a second set of eyes look over your story to help polish it and find all the little (and not so little) things that may be not quite on target.
We have relaunched our Beta Reader program! You can read all about it here , but in short you can check out our list of members who have marked themselves as beta readers, check out the Find a Beta Reader thread on the forums or simply say in your story notes that you are looking for beta and someone may respond!
Full details on our beta reader program are here, but to start head to Edit Profile , select "Yes" on the beta reader line, and either copy/paste the beta reader template to your bio and fill it out OR fill out the beta reader section of your MTT forum profile and direct people to there.
It's at the very beginning stages but we have started a special page with Writing Help, we hope to have lot of resources on writing fanfic for The Office and just writing in general!
In "My Account" click "Manage Stories " to go to a list of your stories. From there you can click "Edit" and modify the summary and any classification information. At the bottom of this page, it will list the chapters of your story and from here you can edit the actually story text, rearrange chapters, or add new chapters.
To only delete certain chapters, go to the same "My Account" > "Manage Stories " area to view your stories, then either click "View Chapters" in the upper right corner of the table and delete chapters from there, or edit the story and find the chapters at the bottom. To delete the whole story, go to "My Account" > "Manage Stories" and click "delete" next the story's title. Chapters and Stories CANNOT be recovered once deleted so if you want save anything, please make sure you've copy and pasted your writing to a text file on your own device before deleting.
If you are willing to let a story remain published, but want to disassociate your username/account from that story, please consider orphaning the work.
When logged in, you can go to My Account > View Your Statistics and see who is following your stories, as well as see your own reviews and favorites.
In View Your Statistics, click "X-number Stories " and you can see how many hits, reviews, and favorites your stories have received. We don't have terribly sophisticated stat trackers but these can give you an idea. (p.s. you own hits DO count)
If you have an incomplete story and know for whatever reason you won't finish it, you can mark your story as Abandoned. To do this, go to "My Account" > Manage Stories, then edit your story and in the Genre section select "Status: Abandoned". This is simply to let readers know the story will not be completed.
If you are going to mark a story as Abandoned, consider putting it up for Adoption!
If you have an incomplete story and are willing to let another writer "take the reins" and finish it up, you can put your story up for adoption! To do this, go to "My Account" > "Manage Stories " then edit your story and select "Status: Adoptable" in the Genre section. In the story summary please enter your "adoption terms" (for example, the next writer must contact you before adopting story, you'd like to look over chapters before they are posted, or simply to state there are no terms and another writer can do whatever!)
Once you edit your story and mark it as "Adoptable", we request you send a quick message to us just so we know and so we can possibly promote your adoptable story.
Taking a page from AO3, we now offer the option of "orphaning" a story. Orphaning is an alternative to deletion and allows an author to remove all association from a story while letting the story remain in the archive for current and future fans to enjoy! When you "orphan" a story, your penname will be removed as the author and changed to our "Orphaned Work" account.
To orphan a story, log in and use the contact form to send us a message that you want to orphan a story and state the title of the story. Also state whether you want to allow all the reviews on the story to remain or to be deleted (deleting only certain reviews is not an option). By orphaning your story, you acknowledge that you are permanently disassociating yourself from the story and you will no longer be able to edit or delete it.
Our goal with the "orphaning" option is to simply preserve stories that may otherwise be lost to future fans, we will not alter the text or take any kind of credit.
If you, understandably, would rather not give up total control of the story but still want that disassociation, there's the option of changing your penname. You also can always created another account with a new penname and either delete the story from your original account and then re-upload (note all the reviews and faves will be lost and links will be broken) OR contact us and ask to switch the penname from your old account to new.
Those are little Dundies and denote Featured Stories (formerly indicated by ribbon icons). These are chosen by administrators and are simply stories we admins love and think are worth reading. It's a just a little perk of being an admin! It's not intended to be a comprehensive list, there are many amazing stories on this site without Dundies.
Blue based Dundies mean stories that are currently being featured on the homepage, and red based Dundies mean stories that are now retired from the homepage but that are still worth a read.
As a reader, you are highly encouraged to leave reviews and high star ratings on the stories you think are worth reading. More reviews and more stars means that story is more likely to be read by others!
Challenges are themes or prompts, usually sent in by readers, to inspire our writers.
Everyone should feel free to answer challenges, no matter how old the challenge is. They are there to inspire you. Once you've posted a story, enter it as a reply to a challenge by clicking on "Respond to the challenge" link next to a given challenge. It will then bring up the list of all stories you've written. Just put a checkmark next to the appropriate one.
Sure. We ask that send us your ideas either through the contact form, via email, or on the Challenges thread on the message boards. We post challenges occasionally, and will announce new challenges on the main page. Please do not issue challenges yourself, by letting the admins post challenges we can space them out and make sure they get the attention they deserve.
Yes, just click Search at the top! You can do a simple search by author(penname), title or summary. Or click "Advanced Search" for lots of additional options.
Off-Site Fic Recommendations are stories hosted outside of MTT that our members feel are worth reading. Clicking the title will take you off-site to the story (typically posted at LiveJournal, FFN, or AO3). You can rate and review them here like other MTT stories, though we encourage readers to also leave accolades where the story is posted, as there is no way for the authors to get alerts from here. Members can add Recommendations to their favorites much like other stories.
We try to occasionally perform a check of the recommendations list to make sure there aren't any dead links, however if you happened upon a dead link, a quick message to us is appreciated!
Yes! The recently added Save to EPUB feature lets you save any story on MTT as an EPUB formatted eBook that you can then read any time or pretty much any device! This feature is available to our registered users !
If you have a Kindle Fire, you can install OverDrive or Alkido from the Amazon App store then download EPUBs and read them no problem. If you want to read in the Kindle App or on a non-Fire Kindle eReader, you will have to convert the EPUB file to MOBI. There are various online converters, but we recommend using Calibre to convert to MOBI.
Members are highly encouraged to leave reviews, we do ask you follow these guidelines
- Members need to be registered and logged in to leave reviews. This helps us control spam, it also helps us keep things civil.
- Avoid coarse language, we will use the "bleep button" rule, if it's a word that would have been censored on the show, it should not be in your review.
- Reviews should be polite and while constructive criticism is welcome, being rude or harassing towards the story, the writer or other members of MTT is not.
- The review form is to be used to review and discuss the story. It's okay to get a bit off-topic in a review, but at least a few words of every review should be related to the story it's posted on.
- If the author and reviewer find they want to discuss things further or go into off-topic discussion, they are encouraged to take their conversation to our forum or to private message.
- Authors should not post reviews their own stories, if they have addition comments to make on their stories they should edit the story notes or summary instead.
- The review form is NOT to be used for solicitation.
- In general, members should leave one review per chapter.
- It's fine to leave another review if the reviewer has additional thoughts on the chapter, or if it's been a long time and the reviewer just wants to show the story some more appreciation.
- If the reviewer is leaving an excessive number of reviews on a single chapter in short amount of time and/or leaving completely off topic reviews, we admins may combine reviews and delete anything that's repetitive.
The admins reserve the right to edit or remove reviews that do not follow the above guidelines. Members who frequently disobey these guidelines may see disciplinary action. Members who are clearly trying to pad review counts will be warned and could also see disciplinary action.
Please leave reviews! It's an easy and absolutely free way to show your appreciation for a story and give writers encouragement.
You are encouraged to leave reviews on any story at MTT regardless of when it was published, while keeping in mind a review on a more recent story is more likely to get a response (you never know who's lurking about though...)
If you make a critical remark, make sure to phrase it in a polite manner and try your best to make your criticism helpful. Avoid comments like "you need to..." or "you should..." and instead use "What if in this section you did this..." or "Maybe here if you...", etc. Keep the criticism focused on the story, not on the writer. Also try to balance out your criticism with a comment on something you think the writer did well in the story.
When you review a story, you have the option of giving it a rating of 1 to 10, this will convert to a star rating that will appear on your review.
10 = 5 stars (excellent)
8 = 4 stars (good)
6 = 3 stars (average)
4 = 2 stars (below average)
2 = 1 star (poor)
(odd number ratings will appear as half-stars, ex. a rating of 7 = 3.5 stars ).
Your star rating will be averaged with other star ratings and the average will appear on the story. The number of stars a story has definitely affects the number of reads it will get, so please think about this before assigning a star rating of less than 3/number rating less than 6 (even 3 stars might be viewed negatively!).
Remember, a story you don't like DOES NOT EQUAL a poorly written story. You should NOT give a story a lower rating for purely subjective reasons such as it has a pairing you don't like, is written in a style you don't care for, didn't end the way you wanted it to etc.
Yes. You have probably seen the "add story to favorites" and "add author to favorites" at the bottom of pages. When you click on "add story to favorites" or "add author to favorites", it takes you to another screen with the name of the story or author on it and underneath a box for comments. Comments are optional, but you must press the "submit" button underneath the comment box for your favorite to be added to your account.
Once a story or author is added to your favorites, you can get email alerts when your favorites add new chapters or stories! You can turn this feature on and off under "My Account" > "Edit Preferences"
Bookshelf is a recently added feature that allows you to add stories to a browsable list, it will also display the last time you read that story. It's all up to you how you choose to use this feature! You can read more about it here.
They are in the same vein but Bookshelf and Favorites have some key differences:
- You can only add stories to Bookshelf. You can add stories, series, authors and recommendations to Favorites
- You can filter and browse through your Bookshelf, you can only view your Favorites by publish date (which we know is dumb and we're working on that!).
- You can see the date you last read a story on your Bookshelf, while this feature is not available for Favorites.
- You can add and edit comments on your Favorites, you cannot add comments to Bookshelf items.
- You can choose to be notified by email on updates to your Favorites, but you will get no notifications from updates to stories on your Bookshelf.
- Your Favorite are publicly listed on your profile, your bookshelf is viewable only to you.
Yes, we do have new message boards. Feel free to join us there!
You can post as a guest, but we encourage you to register to get the full benefits of the community (including being able to friend others, send private messages, etc.) Also, yes even if you are registered here, you will need to create an account there as they are two different systems.
If you're nostalgic for the old boards, they are now functional and you can browse topics, log in a see your personal messages, etc, but do know we are in the process of archiving them!
MoreThanThat is run with the latest version of eFiction (3.5.5). However most of eFiction's script was written nearly a decade ago so issues are known to arise, especially with mobile users. There is now a separate Tech Page with some troubleshooting tips, known issues, and an update log.
Most importantly, if you run into a tech issue please contact us via the contact form or email. We highly appreciate if you give us as much detail as possible (where the error was encountered, what the exact error was, what browser/device you are using, even screenshots of the problem), this helps us identify the issue and bring you a better site!
Email from this site has a tendency of getting delivered to spam folders, and sometimes not getting delivered at all! (especially if you have a Microsoft account like hotmail). Try adding firstname.lastname@example.org to your contacts/"safe" list. It's also possible your email given has a typo, so also go to "My Account" > "Edit Bio" and doublecheck.
As stated previously, members are expected to be polite in their interactions with each other. Constructive criticism and friendly disagreements are okay, but excessively negative reviews or replies, personal attacks, inflammatory remarks or any kind of harassment will not be tolerated. If you feel harassed by a fellow member, please contact us right away via the contact form or an email to MTT.email@example.com !
All reviews should have a "Report This" link right next to the reviewers name. If you get a harassing review on your stories, or a harassing reply to a review you left, click that link, select "Violation of Rules", and type "harassing review" plus any additional information you want to provide. We will modify (or delete) the review/reply and take disciplinary action against the commenter.
We have taken many precautions and we monitor new registrations very carefully, but unfortunately the occasional spammer does get through! While we continue to add and improve anti-spam measures, if you do receive a spam reviews please click "Report This" at the top of the comment and write "spam" in the comment section of your message.
MoreThanThat does not tolerate blatant plagiarism of either published works or other fanfictions. If you read a story that you feel is plagiarized, please hit "Report This" on the story and let us know, please include any links to or titles of the works you feel are being plagiarized. You can also email the information to us.
*Please note that some authors do use different pennames at different fanfiction sites. Also a fanfic author is certainly free to 'recycle' their own fics and use in another fandom.*