Date: May 31, 2020 06:44 pm Title: Holding On and Letting Go
Hoo boy, lots going on in this chapter. Kind of tragic to read about Toby's fate. After everything life dealt him, and as far gone as he was there at the end, his ultimate fate is just sad.
I loved how Jim started down Mac in that moment during the exchange of goods. I've got it in my head that though Mac maintains an air of bravado, inwardly he can't help but cringe at the low determination of Jim's voice. A man who just takes and take doesn't stand a chance against a man who has something and someone to live for.
Nice bit of perspective to see Jim break down there with Pam. The burdens of leadership are huge and I get that he doesn't want them. He just wants his family safe. I also love that Pam is right there to hold him, to love him, and to re-encourage him. It's a great dynamic and you wrote it fantastically.
Welcome baby Jack. Nice counterpoint to the start of the chapter. It's a new set of challenges to be sure, but it's also a a good thing to know Jack and Pam are okay for now.
Superb writing as always.
Author's Response:
You absolutely nailed that insight on Mac. His bravado is definitely a false one and I think Jim is sensing that in a way. Despite all that Toby did to him, he was still super pissed that Mac killed him. Jim can be loyal to a fault sometimes.
The idea of Jim and Pam being one singular unit is a theme I've tried to weave throughout and I'm glad you enjoyed it here.
Thank you warrior!
Date: May 31, 2020 06:02 pm Title: Holding On and Letting Go
Okay so. Toby needed to go. I'm wary of everything that's happening with Mac, and I'm not sure I like Jim threatening him, especially if maybe possibly they might be able to trade and coexist for a little while. But Toby needed to go.
This is my once a chapter swoon over Isabel and Brian. She wants him to fix her chair. You do realize that they are like the "10% Jim and Pam per episode" and I am HERE FOR IT.
"With practiced ease, there was no space between them to define where one ended and the other began; just the existence of them. Singular." A lot of lines stood out to me in this chapter, but this one just really reminded me that at the very core of this story, there is a them.
Jim identifying and admitting that Pam is stronger and braver than him? And watching him struggle with potentially losing her, and not wanting to be the leader anymore? My heart is breaking.
And then you named the baby Jack and it HEALED MY SOUL. Wow. Okay This chapter was a RIDE.
Author's Response:
Oh, I could go write a chapter on Isabel and Brian alone but I restraining myself, and just sprinkling it in.
I'm glad you are seeing that message of Jim and Pam being one unit throughout, as it truly is a central theme. Even the goose story, of one not being able to exist without the other, is a nod to that.
The baby just HAD TO be Jack, right? ;)
Date: May 23, 2020 07:35 pm Title: With Shortness of Breath, You Explained the Infinite
I love the way you build the suspense in this story! You do a great job of having the payoff come and then raising the stakes again. And you write villains really well in Mac and Toby, but in ways that are believable and real. I love this and can’t wait to see what happens!
Author's Response: Thank you so much BT! I hope the build up pays off in the end. Thanks for commenting!
Date: May 16, 2020 05:29 pm Title: With Shortness of Breath, You Explained the Infinite
Amazing chapter - yet again :)
I’m blaming Toby - what a rat!
Author's Response: Thank you! Yep, Toby is a bad, bad guy and it might not turn out the way he wanted. ;)
Date: May 15, 2020 12:24 am Title: With Shortness of Breath, You Explained the Infinite
One thing I really love in this story is that the kids aren't a huge part of it. They are definitely supporting players but the core of it is the JAM relationship, which is honestly so romantic and lovey dovey given the situation they're in. Seeing them just so committed and in love is really, really refreshing and sweet. Even the 1:1 with him and Mac and talking almost human to human was really interesting after everything that's happened so far. I really love this story and can't wait to see what happens next.
Author's Response: I'm so glad their love is translating so well. I know that this is an overall dark story but who they are together still rings true and it is why I wanted it to be the focus. Thank you for the comment, Bayjb!
Date: May 14, 2020 11:02 pm Title: With Shortness of Breath, You Explained the Infinite
The scene between Erin and Pam had me crying real actual tears. Is it weird that I miss Dwight in this world? I love that he just handed his address over to people when the world started falling apart around them. For all his Dwightness, he loved his people.
“Mac wants to meet with Jim. Alone.” Nope. Nope, nope, nope. I don’t like that. I cling to your first chapter note so desperately in times like this...
Toby is just the gift that keeps on giving isn’t he... That was surprisingly less confrontational than anticipated, but bodes poorly for things to come. It is indeed personal, and I have the feeling Mac isn’t used to not fighting his way to what he wants.
Beautiful writing, as always.
Author's Response:
Aww, I'm so glad it provoked such a strong emotion! My idea of having Dwight, a main character, die before the story began was my way of making it less painful and focusing on its effect on everyone. That was my hope, anyway.
It is indeed personal now. If you will notice, he used Jim's first name for the first time in this conversation. He has a wealth of information now to use against him.
Thanks Jenna for your comment!
Date: May 14, 2020 08:16 pm Title: With Shortness of Breath, You Explained the Infinite
"No chapter warnings."
Go back and read the first paragraph and tell me it wasn't meant to GOUGE MY SOUL. And then the "Come back to me James Halpert?"
Ugh. you're so f'ing GOOD.
(on the plus side. Brian + Isabel. He DESERVES HAPPINESS).
Author's Response:
Ha! Well, I guess my secret intention to write soul gouging content was successful. ;)
Oh Brian. He has found his 'Pam' and we are all here for it.
Date: May 14, 2020 07:44 pm Title: With Shortness of Breath, You Explained the Infinite
Jim's shock that Mac knows his family's names does ring true. However I kinda figure they'd connect the dots to Toby fairly quickly. Jim, Pam, and Brian come off as smart. Toby in the past repeatedly was hostile to Jim. Mac is hostile to Jim. Toby knows Cece's full name from Before. Who else with an ax to grind against Jim would know that information and be willing to give it to Mac. It just seems that Jim is a bit clueless about a spy when there's already a clear person to suspect.
Other than that, good chapter as always. It's not so much storm clouds building on the horizon as the dull flat grey colorless clouds of winter starting to form. The kind that blot out the sun for seeming ages. Those kinds of clouds seem to suck hope out of the air. Recovery quickly Jim. This winter could be long.
Author's Response:
Aha well, it doesn't take them long to put the pieces together, I promise. ;)
Date: May 14, 2020 07:23 pm Title: With Shortness of Breath, You Explained the Infinite
Gah! How could Toby do that to the group taking care of his own daughter! You've got me Hook line and sinker here, I need to know what happens next.
Author's Response: It certainly doesn't turn out like he planned. Thank you for the reviews!
Date: May 14, 2020 07:11 pm Title: On the Nature of Daylight
Phew, glad Jim's ok, even if he might not be out of the woods. Looking forward in trepidation to what Mac does next.
Author's Response: I could never bring myself to kill Jim. Hurt him a bit maybe... but never kill him. ;)
Date: May 14, 2020 07:09 pm Title: There's Nothing I'm Planning to Take
Darn it, Toby! I knew he was a snake but that was just low and dirty. I finally got psyched up enough to read this, here's hoping everything turns out alright.
Author's Response: Yes, Toby is a real jerk. I hope it doesn't disappoint!
Date: May 14, 2020 06:58 pm Title: With Shortness of Breath, You Explained the Infinite
Before I even start this chapter, I have to say I HAVE BEEN HABITUALLY CHECKING DAILY FOR THIS. Thank you!!!
Ok. Now finished. Good God. I love the visuals in this chapter, like The breeze and the smell of snow. You're so descriptive and concise in writing environmental and setting bits, they all seem so real.
I am so stoked for another chapter. Each one builds and builds and the crescendo is going to be epic, I can feel it. Keep 'em coming!
Author's Response:
Well, if checking daily takes you down the road to reading great fic then it's a good thing. :)
Thank you, GreenyshEyed! Your words of encouragement are so appreciated.
Date: May 13, 2020 01:58 pm Title: On the Nature of Daylight
Just got all caught up and wow, those last two chapters! I think Toby’s arc is really great storytelling. As we’ve seen in the current pandemic, some people are incredibly selfish and self serving even when we think we know them, even when we all should be banding together. This is such a rich and full world that they’re in and I appreciate that you don’t keep them from danger. I mean, I might hate you if something truly happens to either of them! I thoroughly enjoy this story so much and look forward to reading more!
Author's Response: Thank you so much BT! It is really interesting to see how people react differently in times of crisis. Of course Toby has reached a new level of desperation at this point. Thank you for taking the time to get caught up and comment!
Date: May 10, 2020 02:26 am Title: There's Nothing I'm Planning to Take
So I read the next chapter and was like, wow, I'm so confused, I guess we're jumping ahead, LOL. Then I found this chapter and it all fell in to place. Phew. Personally, I like this darker side of Toby and how JAM interact with him. The scene in the cellar was hot but also very foreboding of what was to come. I'm guessing what Toby told Mac was about the mine? Or something else? Either way, love it and can't wait for more.
Author's Response: Oh my, I bet that was really confusing! We will come to see what Toby reveals to Mac and the price he pays for that later, don’t worry. :) Thank you for your review!
Date: May 06, 2020 10:11 am Title: On the Nature of Daylight
I’ve been working pretty much non stop for the past couple of weeks so I decided not to read this until I had a couple of days off.
I’m so glad I waited so I could read a few chapters in one go! This was so good!
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, I’m forever thankful for your note saying the Halperts won’t be killed - I can actually enjoy all of the angst knowing it’s going to be okay! Hahaa!
Also, TOBY?! What happened to him?! How can he possibly think himself to be better than Jim?!
You’re amazing!
Author's Response:
That's a bummer about having to work so much but I am glad you are able to catch up here now. I like to have the angst with a bit of a safety net too, so I totally get it.
Toby has officially gone off the deep end, I'm afraid.
Thank you so much for talking the time to comment!
Date: May 03, 2020 08:20 pm Title: On the Nature of Daylight
Wow. Just--I'm speechless. Couldn't stop reading the whole thing, because it was just so good. Thank goodness they're both all right!
Author's Response: Thank you so much! I'm thrilled you like it. :)
Date: May 03, 2020 01:41 pm Title: On the Nature of Daylight
I never thought I’d see the “Hey/Hi” used in this context but I am a full blown mess right now
Author's Response: I actually didn't start out the scene with the intention of using the hi/hey but when I got there, it just felt so natural for them to say. And Jenna said on OL podcast that wasn't scripted so I just had to. For reasons. ;)
Date: May 03, 2020 01:38 pm Title: There's Nothing I'm Planning to Take
TOBY
TO
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Author's Response: I know. Ugh. To quote Pam "I wanna bash his face in with a stale bagel."
Date: May 02, 2020 09:23 pm Title: On the Nature of Daylight
Umm. I’m a little concerned about that chapter note... So, there’s that.
It’s fine. I’m fine. I’m just crying. I’m sure we’re all crying.
Perfect chapter is perfect. Especially those last few lines.
Author's Response:
No worries about the chapter note! I just knew this was going to be a heavy chapter and I didn't want anyone throwing something at me. lol.
I was crying while writing it. My husband thinks I'm certifiably insane when he walks by me at my computer sometimes. :)
Date: May 02, 2020 09:19 pm Title: There's Nothing I'm Planning to Take
Two chapters at once! That’ll make my day!
Brian is definitely a good friend. I’m glad he’s trying to ease some of that pressure for Jim. You have some real truths about community shining through in this story.
I know I’ve mentioned the tension you’ve built so strongly throughout this story, but I feel I’ve neglected the chemistry, because damn, the chemistry between Pam and Jim is so, so good. So often, when they’re already married, there’s a lot of fluff. But this is just pure want and you write it SO well. The chemistry they have throughout this is seriously amazing.
Oh no, we’re getting into creepy territory... “The one he really wanted refused to hear reason.” Uh, I don’t think there’s much “reason” there, Toby, buddy...
Ugh. Toby is well and truly a creep. That’s all very unpleasant.
And now he’s even worse... Although, I love that in Jim’s rage, the only thing that could break through to him was Pam.
Oh, and even worse, worse. He left his daughter. To be fair, that’s probably a kindness. She’s bound to have a better life on the farm than on the road with Toby.
How does Toby manage to top himself with one horrible thing after another in this chapter?! There’s no coming back after this betrayal...
Ahhh. Onto the next chapter, I’m glad you didn’t leave us hanging!
Author's Response:
It really makes me happy that you feel the chemistry (that we all know and love) is there. I feel that can be tricky to portray and I know can pull me right out of a story if I it feel doesn't line up with what *I* picture them as. Anyway, I'm glad it is coming across as I intended. Their dialog is just so easy to write because their relationship is so amazing.
Toby is definitely full on creep. I needed something to push him over the edge to spur him to action and yep, this was it. I agree with you, that he sees leaving Sasha as the best thing. She is safe and fed here which was more than he could give her out there. I feel it is the justification in his mind. Thank you as always Jenna!
Date: May 02, 2020 03:51 pm Title: On the Nature of Daylight
*Lets out a huge sigh of relief*
Okay. Thank you for that. Granted we already know that Jim, Pam, and their kids will make it through this, but still Pam's anguish was just so very real.
Clearly there's going to be some scars along the way.
Here's the thing though, now that Jim is starting to be on the mend, I can't help but think about something. That warning Brian gave to Toby last chapter? About not messing with Jim when it comes to Pam? Got a feeling the same will be said for Pam.
Kinda wonder if after this Jim really ups the security around the Farm. Like he finds an old military strategy book of Dwights. Some ideas that stand out, since I'm a bit of a student of military history. A moat lined with sharpened stakes outside the fence line. Have watch towers that protrude out from the wall so there's no blind spots where an enemy can reach the wall. A gatehouse with two seperate gates one has to clear before being allowed in. Only one gate is opened at a time creating an area where an attacking force can be bottled up and the defenders can attack them from multiple sides. Clear out all vegitation for at least 300 yards from the outside of the wall. Easier feilds of fire and harder time for an attacking force to approach since they have to be out in the open to assault the walls. Keep making those walls bigger and stronger. Make it seem from afar that there's no way any attack could succeed since there's no clear weak points. Regular drills for those who would man the walls at all times of day or night. Hidden booby traps in the no-man's land outside the wall. Mind you some of the best booby traps are ones that injure, not kill. It's a psycological weapon as well. Have the doctor start teaching basic first aid measures for those so there's also a ready force of medics to tend to any wounded. Stockpile as many supplies as possible.
Sorry if that's a bit much, I kinda got on a roll there. Feel free to use any or none of those ideas. It's your story to write after all.
Author's Response:
"Got a feeling the same will be said for Pam." Yep! This is a HUGE factor later on.
Those are all great ideas. I do have them working on (coming up) a large ditch system around the walls, similar to a moat, but dry. If you try and run a vehicle at the wall, the ditch will prevent that. There are some bullet making methods too, that Dwight prepared them for that I talk about later as well. I like the double gate idea, that's a good one. Thanks for all the great thoughts!
Date: May 02, 2020 03:37 pm Title: There's Nothing I'm Planning to Take
Holy crap that was a chapter. Huge range of emotions. Toby is so far gone. I'm angry, disgusted, and feel slightly sorry for him. Considering the beatings his life took Before, I kinda get why he'd get this hard and cruel. But still to abandon even his daughter? Wow, this new world really does hit home hard.
And to end the chapter like that? Hoo boy, kinda glad you didn't leave us on to big a cliffhanger. Still I'm feeling very nerouvs to start in on that next chapter you've written.
Amazing writing.
Author's Response: Thank you Warrior! Yeah, I feel for Toby a bit too. Life has done him no favors, that's for sure. In my mind, he left Sasha for her own good. Where he thinks he is going, he can't take her. At least that's how I feel his character is rationalizing it.
Date: May 02, 2020 01:03 am Title: Kiss my Mouth, Hell is Here
I mean, so good. Long chapter and I absolutely loved it. The detail was great and the quality of the writing is really incredible. I love seeing updates. The Toby element here continues to be a really interesting development, what caused him to become more obsessive and if his comment about what Pam would do if Jim left her and the kids is interesting. And a little foreboding? Anyhow, love it and can't wait for more as always.
Author's Response: Thank you so much for your kind words, Bayjb!
Date: April 28, 2020 09:27 pm Title: Kiss my Mouth, Hell is Here
I have to say, you are an AMAZING storyteller! I’m telling you, every word of every chapter just totally keeps me hanging on. When I’m done with a chapter I want to hungrily and greedily demand more right now! I’m pretty sure I started reading this somewhere else before you brought it here, we’ll either that or I’ve become psychic because I swear when I started reading the first chapter here I knew what the next several were going to bring. Anyhow...
This is just so good. First off, if you aren’t writing professionally, you should think about it IMO. You just have a way of setting it all up where I feel like there’s a movie playing in my head of the scenes you have set. The way you keep everyone so completely in character in this drastically different setting is just masterful. Even your original characters, Brian, Dr. Brooks even Larissa who is somewhat canon but never defined in any way on the show, I feel like I somewhat know them. As if they were part of my favorite show when I watched it. You just make us know and care about these characters. Even ones like Erin, who I wasn’t a big fan of and Pete who I didn’t really care either way about, though they (especially Erin. Oh and I’m so glad it’s Erin and Pete rather than Andy but I won’t get started on that) aren’t in this much, you’ve still brought me around to care for them and to care and have concern for the impending birth of their first child. On another note, wow the surprise entrance of Toby and Sasha. Sasha being with her dad made me feel... something for him. It didn’t take long before I started feeling like I did about the Toby on the show. That man is underhanded and I’m concerned about what he might try. The question he asked Pam in this last chapter about what if Jim left her and the kids leaves me especially concerned for what Toby is thinking. I was also concerned about him insisting on going along to Tent City but I’m guessing that since he has decided that Jim doesn’t protect Pam adequately because of the bruised face (and he doesn’t want to bother with the real story. Him saying he would have stopped them or whatever, not a chance. Heck, Jim was being held by multiple people, people that had guns, yet as soon as someone was hurting Pam he used practically superhuman strength to get away from them, get to Pam and beat the heck out of the guy that hurt her. Then he had to face down more guys, who also had guns, and get them out of there and back home, sure Toby, you spineless, conniving drivel of a person... you could have done better. Not in a million years. Had it been Toby a lot worse would have happened to Pam. But, I think I got away from myself there, sorry. 😏) If Toby knew anything from working with Jim and Pam it should be that Pam is Jim’s world, well Pam and the kids now. Jim will do whatever it takes to protect them. Anyhow, this Toby, I’m interested to see how far he’s going to take his delusions. You have me nervous about him. I mean, that whole thing with he and Pam in the last chapter where he’s insisting that Jim doesn’t deserve her....Ugh. I’m thinking Jim should have brought Sasha to the house and maybe shot Toby on sight. Not really. It’s just sad how Toby is because Jim and Pam were so happy to see him.
Anyhow... the special thing about this story is that there are so many little stories that I want to know more about. Like Pete and Erin and their baby. Larissa and Dr Brooks. Where the heck did Mac and his men go and what are they going to do when they get back? I’d love to see something more developed for Angela and hear more about Dwight’s death and maybe some of him while he was still Alive . Like how did some of these people like Pete and Erin, Meredith etc... end up at the farm? What was Dwight (and Angela’s reaction when Jim and Pam and family showed up. I swear, I think you could write 100 chapters of this and I’ll probably be craving 100 more. So thank you for sharing your talent with us. I cannot wait to read more. I hope it won’t be too long in coming...🙂😉 Really, really great job.
Author's Response:
Wow. Just, wow. Your review absolutely made my day! It brings me so much joy that you are as invested in this story and these characters as I am. You aren't mistaken, I did have a few chapters up on AO3 for a short time, but I wanted to make a few changes and decided to take it down while I did. :) (It's back there now)
I adore that you are so invested in the original characters because they are near and dear to me, especially Brian. For me, Brian is the guy friend we never got to see Jim have and I have enjoyed developing him and what I have in store for him as well. And don't worry, you will see more about Dr. Brooks and Larissa, I have quite a bit more already written about them. I'm glad that you feel the same way about Toby as I do! I always found him a bit creepy and when I was forming this story in my mind I felt he would be a good fit for this role. I'm glad you noticed the slight empathy I wanted the reader to feel for him. It makes the decisions he makes down the road understandable albeit still reprehensible, in my mind. I have always felt the scariest characters are the ones that are multidimensional. They might do terrible things and you hate them but their humanity peeks through for just a brief moment. Usually right before they do something even more horrendous, but I feel that makes them more interesting.
I'm a huge sucker for protective Jim, as you can see. There were always little hints of it in the show, but he kept in reined in, so to speak. In this universe he doesn't have to, nor do we want him to, to be honest. It's one of the reasons he is so good at keeping his family alive. I think you will enjoy the next chapter. ;)
I think many of your questions about the secondary stories will get answered in the upcoming chapters. I've tried to drop little breadcrumbs along the way that will make sense once certain scenes unfold and tie things together. At least that is my hope! Thank you so much for taking the time to share your thoughts with me! I can't wait to hear more!
Date: April 28, 2020 12:20 pm Title: Kiss my Mouth, Hell is Here
Toby is really starting to worry me. Glad they got out of town just fine but boy is he sketchy at all get out. Hopefully his daughter's best interests prevail and he doesn't do anything untoward.
Author's Response: Yes, Toby has a big question mark over him for everyone. He is definitely not predictable right now! Thanks so much for reading and reviewing!