Date: November 07, 2021 01:08 pm Title: Pam and Phyllis Have Tsuris
I truly truly love this, but perhaps my favorite part are the emails between Gene and Lee at the end. But you’re right, for the whole bit about Cece getting baptized and what religion everyone is, they couldn’t have thrown in some Judaism? It does feel a bit weird. I think it’s spot on though that Creed would know and just drop that knowledge on them then bounce. Another great cold open that it is a damn shame that we didn’t get to see
Author's Response: Yeah, these are getting increasingly meta. Eventually they're just going to be a script of a documentary about the writers' room of The Office.
SO weird. I mean, they even go out of their way to make Toby a potential priest. Just some missed opportunities there.
Creed occasionally Knowing Things is my favorite Creed running gag, and he does clearly have an expansive and colorful past. It could happen!
Thanks so much! And thanks for taking the time to review.
Date: November 03, 2021 02:09 pm Title: Pam and Phyllis Have Tsuris
I don't even know what to talk about. This was far too clever. I wish you could have heard me laughing at Creed's final talking head.
Author's Response: You're far too kind. I promise, Creed did most of the work.
Date: November 03, 2021 06:08 am Title: Pam and Phyllis Have Tsuris
Ha! Another of The Faith here (albeit very secular, just the high holidays really), this did make me chuckle. You know I love those cold opens and this did not disappoint.
Author's Response: I'm mostly the same, but my family is *very* culturally Jewish. It was fun to be able to dig in on this one. I'm glad this one worked for you! Thanks for reviewing!
Date: November 02, 2021 07:51 pm Title: Pam and Phyllis Have Tsuris
Very creative and original. Nice to bring in this element as well. Dwight being proud of his ancestry and at the same time doing everything he can to cast it in a good light tracks well. Same with Creed just coming out with something so random to his fellows. Yet here it actually works.
I liked all the explinations at the end too. Even without them it works, but with them it give a lot more context. Thank you or that. L'Chiam!
Author's Response: Thank you so much!
Yeah, having Dwight be in anything other than deep denial about the atrocities felt a little too dark. Writing this fic actually raised a lot of questions about Dwight for me.
Creed does seem to randomly know things a lot, this felt plausible!
Ha, I'm glad you appreciated the glossary. I went back and forth on whether or not that was obnoxious.
Date: November 02, 2021 05:21 pm Title: Pam and Phyllis Have Tsuris
Ok - so you already know how much I love this one -even more the second time around and not just because I am a member of the tribe.
This was both hysterical and educational in the most organic way. I'm still kvelling from the fact that I had something to do with its inspiration. So blame me as much as you want cause this almost makes up for all the lost opportunities that there was no Jewish character. I mean they had at least 2 actors that were (extra points if you can name them - present author excluded from the contest).
But DJC- this was all you and really well done.
Now I know disclaimers are pretty much your schtick, and this one was spot on.
Now I know it's written for comedy but very in character that Pam and Phyllis would be concerned about getting the sentiment right.
I am Jewish and I still worry about what to say or write. It can be very tricky when flowers are not an option; when you know the mourners already got more bagels and lox and rugelach than they can eat in a month, what else can you send?
I still want to know what the 12 (13) signs were in Jim (you you share them offline to see if they match up with the ones in my head.
The stuff with Dwight - yeah I think the network did make the right call to not want to remind everyone of his potential Nazi ancestors.
But it was Creed here who stole the show - yeah he knows all about Judaism, what to say, what's proper and not, but he still doesn't know Pam's name.
And that backstory.
Gotta say the emails between Lee and Gene were pretty much what I might expect from them and thanks to you a whole new audience has been exposed to a classic Yiddish saying.
and can't neglect to mention: But hey, congrats on writing a cold open that’s actually cold open length! - great add!
I'll say it again - writers really missed the opportunity here - can you imagine if Michael had someone around to teach him Yiddish.
Thanks for giving us a little taste. It was Geshmak.
Author's Response: Well, as its inspiration on several levels, you were very much my target audience on this one, so I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Honestly, the disclaimer pretty much makes this one, I think. I feel like there are a lot of Creed lines you could potentially use for them. Hmmmmmm.
This is the sort of thing that Pam and Phyllis, and probably only Pam and Phyllis, would do. Oscar might care but would assume he knew already. Toby would want to get it right but not put the work in. Plus, their semi-sweet, semi-snippy relationship is fun. I know what you mean about getting the sentiments right, this was actually a pretty real-life useful fic to write.
I mean, you always have the option of donating to charity... but that's out of the question here because it would require money. Besides, you can never have too many rugelach.
I promise you, the signs in your head are almost certainly funnier than whatever I would come up with.
Yeah, I was thinking while writing this that they go to that well... kind of a lot with Dwight. It's weird. This maybe should've been a note the network execs gave more often.
Well, knowing about Judaism was crucial to his scam. What's in knowing the receptionist's name for Creed? She gets him his calls either way, and it certainly doesn't affect his ability to sexually harass her.
You know, this honestly seems like the sort of thing Creed might well have in his checkered past. He's lived a lot of lives.
I'm happy to spread that one on. But don't tell my mom.
It honestly has been a while since one of these has been even close to the appropriate length. I'm glad the execs noticed.
Seriously. There's SO MUCH they could have done with this. UGH.
I'm honored my friend, really.
Date: November 02, 2021 04:20 pm Title: Pam and Phyllis Have Tsuris
*13 if we’re getting technical.*
OH MY GOD. YOU DID NOT.
Any fic that gives Creed this much attention is worthy indeed. "I’ve never seen a warm white light. Or felt the pierce of the Devil’s nails." lolol
Author's Response: I'm afraid I did, yes.
Creed's an interesting character to write because there aren't really any rules for him, you know? Which makes it tricky, but also leaves a lot of room to maneuver.
Fun facts I learned while researching this fic about Creed being a fake rabbi: approximately one out of five reported near-death experiences is negative, and those negative experiences have far fewer reported commonalities than the positive NDE. But the description of someone feeling like their head was being pierced by the nails of the Devil stuck with me. The more you know!