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Summary: Past Featured Story


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"Jim, why don't you tell Pam how you really feel?" 

 Jim and Pam deal with the stuff that comes with being on a hit show...talk shows, radio call-ins, and press junkets. They say there's no such thing as bad publicity, but is that really the case? Watch as Jim and Pam deal with being in the public eye and under the thumb of manipulative network producers. The story is told through interviews, transcripts, web pages and photos.


Categories: Alternate Universe, Jim and Pam, Past
Characters: Ensemble, Jim/Pam
Genres: Angst, In Stamford, Inner Monologue, Romance, Travel
Warnings: Adult language, Moderate sexual content
Series: Reality Reality TV
Chapters: 21 Table of Contents
Completed: Yes Word count: 54070 Read Count: 70547 ePub Downloads: 32
[Report This] Published: April 17, 2008 Updated: March 15, 2009
Reviewer: Cedar Signed
Date: November 17, 2008 Title: Chapter 16: Exhibit L-98 A Letter From Pam

How in the world did I miss the last 3 chapters????? Granted, it was nice to see your story and have 3 in a row to read, but geez – what rock was I living under? :)

You know what I love about this story (besides everything, that is)? The fact that you constantly surprise us with new and interesting formats for the beginning of your chapters. The radio transmissions? Awesome. Roy’s interview? Possibly my favorite interview. Pam’s letter? I’m freaking speechless.

What I loved about the radio transmissions was that you were able to imply so much. Sometimes it’s better not to read in great detail what went on. It gave it a more “authentic” Office-y feel to read those transmissions. Roy’s chapter simply blew me away. I think I said early (in one of my long rambling reviews) that I have a soft spot for Roy, or that I liked how were portraying him. This chapter solidified that for me. I’m actually feeling worse for him than Jim and Pam. It was great to see the daddy side of Roy. I also liked that we’re left with the impression that Jim and Roy aren’t out gunning for each other. When you explored similar ideas about the media’s affect in Observer Effect you really showed how people can band together when the sh#*t hits the fan. Your subtle hints about Roy and Jim (and Pam) convey that here, as well. You’re not showing that they’re all best buds, but that they all recognize the other got screwed and they’re in that together. I also liked the mention in both the Pam and the Roy chapter about the editing. Roy’s editing badly and Pam is edited as this victim, and neither idea is the truth. Finally, Pam’s letter was … amazing. When Pam (or you?) said/wrote that bit about knowing and not knowing about Jim … wow. You put it so clearly that it made all the other ideas and arguments that I read online seem, kind of, not right. :) Of course she didn’t know because she’s not watching filtered moments; she’s not seeing all those things we say lined up in a row week after week. Her life isn’t edited. Oh, and the fact that Pam (and you) are refusing to tell what happened in that hotel room – I like. Very good.

Pam’s chapter made me think of a few questions for you. If you can’t or don’t want to answer them due to “spoilers” I understand :) 1) How far after the night at the beach is this story being written? How many years have passed? 2) Are we going to find out how Pam and Jim and Roy managed to keep their private lives hidden after the documentary was over? I wondered if it would be easy for someone to find out if Jim and Pam ended up together just because they are “regular” people and not celebrities, therefore maybe not as adept at hiding their private lives.

Looking forward to more :)

Reviewer: Cedar Signed
Date: May 15, 2008 Title: Chapter 7: Transcript : Cold Pizza

I've been lurking around MTT for a while now, meaning to join, but this chapter finally broke me down :-)

I so enjoy your take on the "reality" factor of these characters. In fact, it's something I enjoy about a lot of your stories. I'd love to see it addressed on the actual show. Because of the set up of the program, as fans and writers, we're offered a plethora of scenarios and possibilities you don't necessarily get in other shows. The places you're going here are great.

The framework as a study for a graduate student is a particularly nice touch. I love the set up for each chapter; it gives the reader a kind of "teaser" into what they're reading, effectively building our suspense. As a writing technique, I think it's fantastic.

I also think you're doing a good job capturing the various "voices" of the characters. I hear the phrase "in character" applied to a lot of fiction, some of which I'm not sure ... works for me, personally. In your case, however, I feel like you've captured the cadence and feel of Jim and Pam's on-screen voices. You've written these lines that I swear I could see/hear John and Jenna delivering. I can see their facial expressions and body language. Your dialogue in this story is great.

Finally, what prompted me to join and review ... The line, "I keep messing up and you keep doing everything right and she’s still with me," was phenomenal. Seriously. Really fantastic turn of phrase. It so neatly summed up Jim's insecurities and Roy's thought processes. The whole Roy and Jim fight was also really well done, and I'm glad to see you had them make up at the end. I don't like when Roy is made out to be some sort of complete, bumbling idiot; he's a smart guy, occasionally sweet, and, I think, genuinely loves Pam. But he doesn't, as Roy put it in this chapter, always "get" her like Jim does. I love that you had Roy acknowledge that. Additionally, the comment you had Roy make about how he says things without thinking about how they will sound and how he doesn't always know or understand why Pam gets angry.... pure genius. I'm just blown away by the insights you've offered here, and they're insights that apply, not just to the world you're creating in this story, but can also apply to the actual show.

Author's Response: Cedar—I can’t begin to write what your review meant to me…but I’ll try. I have to be honest. I was so completely unsure about this chapter. My outline only said “Roy and Jim fight”. I knew I needed to have some tension and doubt to set up what comes next. I was so very worried that the fight would seem out of the blue and out of character for both of the guys. I told myself, though, that a testosterone fueled sports show would be a good backdrop for that sort of thing to happen. That’s why I’m so relieved to see you articulate exactly what I wanted to show about both Roy and Jim’s characters. Thanks so much for that.I’m also so grateful for your comments about the “voice” of my characters. I really do try to hear them saying the things I want them to say and sometimes don’t think I hit the mark. Thank you so much for your feedback on that.Again, thank you so much for your review. It really helped set aside the doubts I had when I pushed the submit button for this chapter.

Reviewer: Cedar Signed
Date: May 20, 2008 Title: Chapter 8: Interview: On the Inside

Jim’s willingness and hesitancy came through so well at the beginning of the chapter. I feel like it can be such a challenge to write a transcript because a writer doesn’t have the benefit of all that descriptive narrative; the writer just has the dialogue. You, however, do such a good job of depicting Jim’s (and the other transcript participants) feelings that I don’t need all the extra stuff at the beginning. I also thought it was a nice touch to add that Jim suggests Abigail visit with Roy. The way he does it reminds us of what a good guy Jim is (providing Roy with a chance to tell his side) and also provides a nice hint for the reader that Roy is probably to get screwed later on. I feel proactively (right word??) awful for Roy, almost more so than Jim and Pam because you know it will work out for them. They may go through hell and get burned, but they will end up happy and in love. Poor Roy, though, will lose the woman he loves and probably become someone the documentary audience “hates.”

I so like reading the Pam-dialogue in this fic. You do such a great job of capturing her insecurities (the constant repeats of “it’s not much”) and her tendency to start thoughts and stop in the middle because she’s unsure of what to say or how to say it. You also perfectly show how Jim can hear both what she does and doesn’t say and can react appropriately to make her feel better … or to further her (and his) illusions about their relationship.

You also drew some really great booze cruise parallels here: Pam and Jim outside, alone, in the cold, Pam sensing something inside Jim she wasn’t ready to face, Pam claiming cold … But this time, Jim tries to speak up and Pam stops him. I really love that because, should you choose to address that episode, it could explain why he doesn’t try to stop her after she claims she’s cold. He’s been there before with her, in the cold and she didn’t want to hear it then. Why try to speak up a second time only to hear her say “no,” if not literally but figuratively? I like that you said she wasn’t expecting to see what she saw in his eyes. With regards to the booze cruise, if they are in that situation again, seeing that expression in his eyes shouldn’t come as such a surprise, which could make for an interesting scene. Although, if you choose not to incorporate that episode we still have a similar moment, and one that, I think, can stand alone without that episode. (I hope all that made sense! I feel like it’s really random…)

I also enjoyed how you likened Jim’s voice to the snowfall, “heavy and soft.” That’s such a great comparison. I’m a sucker for a good simile, especially one that fits so effortlessly and doesn’t feel forced. Your writing flows so smoothly!

I also had to go back and add that I totally and completely agree with Cousin Mose’s comment about the realism of the beginning of your chapters and the pure feeling of the second half. I can’t word it any better than it was already done :-)

I hope my long reviews aren’t too annoying :-) I’m loving this fic!!

Author's Response:

First of all, your long reviews aren’t annoying at all. They are full of really good feedback and makes me stop and think even more about what I’m putting down on paper.

I really was interested in what you said about the transcript format and the bareness of that. At first I thought that doing things like that was taking the easy way out…what with not having to put in description and thought and all of that other stuff. I found, though, that I really had to measure my words to make sure that all of the feelings were getting through. So, I’m glad to see that you picked up on that.

As for the Booze Cruise parallels, that was as you noticed on purpose and as you know, I’m writing this response after the next chapter has been posted and you’ve read how I chose to handle that. Don’t think, though, that your words weren’t in the back of my head. I’m trying really hard not to show the actual stuff that was on the show because as viewers, we’ve seen that stuff….but the emotion and longing in BC was just so important, I couldn’t ignore it in this story.Thanks also for all of the kind words about my writing. You don’t know how much I appreciate them.

Reviewer: Cedar Signed
Date: May 31, 2008 Title: Chapter 9: Exhibit 72-D : Itinerary for California Promotional Trip

I appreciate the quietness of this chapter. One can express so much in the quiet.

I really felt for Jim in this chapter. The image of him watching Pam and Roy cuddle on the plane was very painful, because, I think, of its simplicity. The normalcy of it made it hurt. I think about the Jim we see on the show, and that Jim doesn’t really get to experience “Pam and Roy” much, and the few times we have seen him witness it, his feelings are all too apparent. I always feel like, on the show, seeing them together is something of a shock to Jim. He lives in this world 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, where Pam is kind of, in a way, his. When Roy intrudes on that picture, he always seems like he’s been rudely awakened from a really good dream. I think you’ve done such a great job of showing how painful it’s going to be for him to see them together for a long period of time.

I also enjoyed your thoughts on the Booze Cruise and how that is now affecting his behavior toward Pam. I think Jim is doing the right thing, or is going to try to do the right thing, in attempting to stop having feelings for Pam. It won’t work, but I like seeing that attempt. With the networks blatant attempts to manipulate things and Pam’s double seeming-rejection, it’s really the only thing he could do.

Anna is also such an interesting character. You could have made her despicable or a stereotypical corporate/media-type person, but I am really liking the fact that she cares for these people and that she’s seeing them as people and not as story lines. Her straightforwardness is great.

The schedule at the beginning was interesting. I look forward to seeing how this trip plays out. I have to wonder if Roy will notice or comment on the fact that Beesley and Halpert are a very common name combination in the itinerary. The Late Show should be awesome. I’m really looking forward to reading it.

Again, you’re doing awesome things here and I’m looking forward to more!!

Author's Response:

Cedar--I can't tell you how much I appreciate your reviews...or maybe I already have.

I agree with you about Jim and normalcy. I think that what probably gets to Jim more than thinking about Pam and Roy having sex (though I'm sure that gets to him as well) are things like knowing that her clothes are next to Roy in the closet or that they have a bill paying routine or that Roy knows things about Pam (color of toothbrush, what side of the bed she sleeps on, her family) that Jim doesn't know. That's where the torture of seeing her everyday comes from...knowing that at the end of the day she has a whole other life.

I'm always pleased when people respond well to original characters, so yeah...for what you said about Anna.

Thanks so much for your feedback and encouragement.

Reviewer: Cedar Signed
Date: July 16, 2008 Title: Chapter 11: Interview: We tried

This is going to be a dual review for the last two chapters (10 and 11); I hope that’s okay!

Pam’s thoughts on her appearance for the party were so real. I love that she can admit to herself that part of why she loves getting dressed up is for Jim. It’s so great that you have her acknowledge that fact, but at the same time ignore the “why” of it; why does she need or love his reaction? That is so perfectly “Pam.” Additionally, having Jim NOT acknowledge how good she looks until the end of the chapter was particularly well done. It worked perfectly with Jim’s newfound resolution to back off, Pam’s conflicted feelings, and both of their inability to really let the other one go.

I also really, really, really enjoyed their mock conversations. How many of us, in real life, have done something like that? Had a fake conversation or joked with someone and have the joking turn serious? The tension present at the end of their conversation was palpable. I was literally holding my breath and I didn’t even realize it until I had to suck in a huge gulp of air. Haha!

Again, you write Jim’s hesitancy so well in the transcript portion. Sometimes my favorite portions of your story are the transcripts. They are so brilliantly written. You’re not forcing characterizations and feelings on us; you’re letting the reader figure it out and the fact that it’s not a huge puzzle is such a compliment to your writing. You have such a great ability to (and here the phrase my students hate more than any….) “show and not tell,” and I so appreciate that.

Abigail’s confession that she was a fan was so perfect. It works really well. It brings in a more human side of her. Her comments that people still wonder how things turned out are so good too. Your portrayal of her and Anna continue to amaze me. Finally, the set up for chapter 12 is so, so, so, so good. I feel like I’ve told you a million times, but I continue to love how you’re incorporating bits of the show into this fic. Casino Night is coming up and I can’t wait!

Reviewer: Cedar Signed
Date: September 26, 2008 Title: Chapter 13: Exhibit 88-4 PerezHilton.com

I was happy to see this story back. I hope you’re feeling better!!

The cliffhanger from the last chapter was awesome, and this chapter certainly delivered. I liked the new beginning with the Perez Hilton blog. It was written really well, spot on voice.

I have to say, I absolutely adore that Pam’s immediate response to “I’m in love with you” was, “I know.” I think that has become my new favorite thing about your whole story. It is so perfect with where you’re taking this character and even the character on the show. Something that comes out so quickly is something that’s true. She does know, thought she may want to deny it and pretend she didn’t know. There have been so many clues in this fic that she certainly knew (and relished) that Jim’s feelings for her went beyond friendship. That automatic response was great. At the same time, the quick denial that came on the heels of his confession and her acknowledgment of it, was the perfect representation of Pam. We’ve seen her on the show blurt things out and then quickly back track when it’s too honest (i.e. asking Jim out for coffee or confessing to Karen that she still wants Jim). I almost feel like this should have been on the show – the idea of her quickly say, “I know.” I love it that much :-)

I also liked that you stayed close to the dialogue from Casino Night, but also veered off. I’m glad Jim told her he was leaving. That burst of honesty from her deserved another in return. We’re also starting to see how much this whole “reality star” thing is affecting him. Pam’s desire for normalcy is almost as heartbreaking as Jim’s rejection.

Finally, the description of what Pam was thinking when they were kissing and the last thing Pam said in this chapter was great. I loved that her thoughts were so disjointed, and that one little comment sums up all of Pam’s problems. She’s worried about what Roy will be thinking, not why she’s kissing Jim, or if she’s hurting Jim and Roy by doing it. It’s interesting. It’s a gut reaction: “Crap! I’ve been caught.” But I have to wonder, based on her thoughts when she’s kissing Jim, if she’s being caught not just by the cameras but also by herself.

In a previous chapter Jim mentioned “the basis of season 3” to Anna, so I’m curious how far you’re planning on writing it. All of season 3? I would certainly read :-)

Author's Response:

Cedar--  You don't know how much I appreciate your reviews and feedback.  I think it's kind of obvious from reading some of my review responses that I worry a lot about how my choices will go over and whenever i read your feedback, I know if I've hit the mark or not.  In your review you addressed all of my little worries...does it make sense that Pam told Jim that she knew?  Does it make sense that she'd try to waffle out after that admission? Would Jim really have told her he was leaving?

As always, thanks so much.  And as for your question, there will be some season 3 here and I think that will be a little clearer after i post the update I'm working on now.

 

Reviewer: Cedar Signed
Date: February 26, 2009 Title: Chapter 19: Exhibit 108-ANON Photograph

I wish I could write a longer more indepth review of this chapter (because I really liked the twists and turns it took), but I am at an English teacher's conference so I need to keep it short :)

Karen, an actress? Brilliant! It seems just like something the network would pull, and I love that she's sort of working against the network and for Jim and Pam.

I found the reasons for why he and Pam aren't be together right now perfect. It makes sense that Jim would feel paranoid, Pam too. They probably would be watched or stalked or worse. However, I do like the idea of Pam stepping up and saying something to Jim, maybe letting him know how she feels.

Finally, I enjoyed the peak at Karen's resume. It was a nice touch.

As always, your story is a joy to read and I look forward to more.

Author's Response: I know I'm behind on my reviews, and I know you've since written another one, so here I'll just say...thank you so much for your supportive and thoughtful reviews. They are so appreciated!

Reviewer: Cedar Signed
Date: March 09, 2009 Title: Chapter 20: TRANSCRIPT: GOOD MORNING SCRANTON

I’m not going to lie and say that I’ve never gotten teary-eyed or emotional over a particularly well-written piece of fan-fiction. However, those pieces have always been ones that deal with death or just overwhelming angst. In fact, I got a tad emotional the first time I read your story Observer Effect. Nevertheless, is the first time I’ve actually shed an honest to goodness tear because a piece of fan-fiction has made me just bursting with happiness. There was something about the way you wrote Jim’s anxiousness to get back to Pam, the way they just sat there at the counter together, the fact that Pam was so brave – it … as silly as it may sound … touched me. I just feel so darn glad that they’re together or working towards being together. From the beginning of this story, you drew your readers by creating such an interesting and compelling alternative to the original. You made Pam and Jim seem all the more real by examining the effects the documentary has on them and using different formats to present their story (I particularly recall us not knowing what happened in the hotel room). When you finally brought them together it became even more real through Jim’s realization that “he was still Jim Halpert. And she was just Pam Beesly and it was all going to be okay.” I love that they didn’t rush into each other’s arms. I love that there wasn’t some sort of big public kiss. It was just him and her being them, drinking coffee and talking. It’s perfect.

I’m anxiously awaiting Abby’s conclusions and Jim and Pam’s happily ever after.

Author's Response:

Wow.  I am truly humbled by your comments and I'm so glad that you enjoyed this.  This chapter was such a strange one for me to write. When I started outlining this story so very long ago...the ending was what I had in mind.  I actually could best see the scenes at the NY Press junket. My intentions there went back and forth. There was going to be a joint Pam/KAren interview...Jim and Pam were going to fight on camera. You name it, I thought about it.

The last scene, too was something I had thought about for a long time.  Originally, Jim was going to get to the diner and have this long heart-to heart with Pam. When they were leaving, the guy was going to stop Jim and recognize him from DM and then Jim and Pam were going to talk (and maybe kiss) as they walked out the diner door and into the sunset.

When I started writing it, though, that all didn't feel right.  I decided to have Jim get recognized before talking to Pam and then when I started writing the big heart-to-heart it just seemed off. Part of me felt like this was something else we shouldn't see and hear and I finally had this revelation that I didn't HAVE to write the heart-to-heart.

So...I'm so glad you pointed out that you liked how it all played out. Thanks so much for your long-term support of this story!

Summary: Past Featured StoryThe title says it all.
Categories: Jim and Pam
Characters: Jim/Pam
Genres: Angst, Drabble, Drunk Pam/Jim, Fluff, Inner Monologue, Romance
Warnings: Adult language
Series: None
Chapters: 13 Table of Contents
Completed: No Word count: 24931 Read Count: 65913 ePub Downloads: 4
[Report This] Published: November 17, 2008 Updated: March 09, 2009
Reviewer: Cedar Signed
Date: November 17, 2008 Title: Chapter 1: It Worked For Han And Leia

There's just something so perfect about this line, "You don’t have to read from an approved script with her anymore, which is fantastic and freeing, but it leaves you at a loss for words sometimes." It rings so true of Jim and Pam, and of life, really. It's a lot easier to talk when you know what is expected of you or when you know what not to say than it is when you can say whatever you want. Is that some kind of paradox? :) Anyway, I'd never thought about that before, and I had to tell you that I loved it. Great job (on the whole story, not just on that line, heehehehe!)

Oh, and I also enjoyed the Star Wars-yness of the "I love you"s. :)

Author's Response: Oh, thank you! That idea and subsequent line kind of just came to me, but the more I thought about it the more it fit. I\'m so happy you liked it. And Star Wars is the shite! :)