Penname: darjeelingandcoke Real name: Joe
Member Since: October 01, 2011

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Just a guy with Jim and Pam on the brain, trying to get the song out of his head by singing it.

Author of the Month June 2021


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Summary:

NOW COMPLETE! and featuring bonus content - enhanced reader notes. BUT DO NOT READ ANY OF THESE CHAPTER/END NOTES ON STEROIDS UNTIL YOU FINISH READING THE ENTIRE FIC - MAJOR SPOILERS ALERT. 

The Office meets Harry Potter. - Sort of, but not exactly, and you don't need to be a fan or really know any HP to follow this fic.

You should enjoy stories about time travel and the magic of love.

Michael discovers a Time Turner and takes Pam on a time-traveling adventure. 

Takes place after The Carpet in season 2 with attempts to be canon-compliant as much as possible for as long as possible considering it is a story that involves the supernatural. But with time travel possible, canon winds up taking some small shifts and even sharp turns. 

 

 

 


Categories: Jim and Pam
Characters: Dwight, Ensemble, Jim/Pam, Michael, Other, Pam, Pam/Roy, Stanley, Toby, Todd Packer
Genres: Dream/Fantasy
Warnings: Mild sexual content
Series: None
Chapters: 39 Table of Contents
Completed: Yes Word count: 181051 Read Count: 33948 ePub Downloads: 35
[Report This] Published: September 05, 2021 Updated: October 14, 2022
Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed 1
Date: September 28, 2021 Title: Chapter 4: Chapter 4 - New Coats and Fancy Cars

You always do such a good job with the mother-son dynamic between Pam and Michael, and you put it to really great comic use here. As if time travel wasn't challenge enough for her. He really just finds so many different ways to be irritating in this chapter... appreciate you pulling out the Elvis accent! Seriously, though... he really is about the last choice you'd make for a partner in time travel.

Michael thinking that time travelling means he gets two paychecks this week is perfect Michael logic, and his attempt to joke with the cashier is perfect Michael cringe - harmless enough that you feel okay laughing about it.

Pam being relieved at knowing that this was the end of Jim and Katy... and that being part of why this turned out to be a good night for her... is a good choice. And I *really* liked this description of Pam's reactions to Jim's near-confession... this feels very much in line with a Pam in total denial of what she's feeling, someone whose body is sending messages that her mind is refusing to translate into conscious thought.

Looking forward to seeing where the rest of the evening takes our travelers!

Author's Response:

Aww thanks - probably comes from experience (the mother/son part, not the dealing with Michael).

I can always count on you to appreciate my humorous stuff (and find it funny enough) - I do think this situation present plenty of moments for Michael to be Michael so taking advantage of that.  

Yes, denial and inner conflict big players here. Let's see what 2 weeks of reflection will do.

I'm so thankful for your excitement about this story and all your reviews and comments. 

 

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed 1
Date: October 03, 2021 Title: Chapter 5: Chapter 5 -Twins

You continue to do well plumbing the dark depths of Michael's brain. Because clearly his first reaction to the thought of twin Pams would be the sexual implications, and of course he would think someone might mistake Katy for Pam's twin, and of course this would all, somehow, in his head, turn into a justification for rebellion against Captain Jack. That's Michael to a T.

So we already have one revelation - Roy's wandering eye. Feels like there's a lot Pam could witness tonight that would be a difference-maker.

You did well using the multiple Pams to set up the contrast between Pam and Roy with [ast!Pam's thought about not wanting to engage in their in-jokes in front of Roy and Katy and between Roy and Jim with present!Pam's presumption that obviously Jim was more likely to notice her clothing change than her actual fiancee.

I like that Pam is genre aware here... she's coming to this with a basic understanding of the risks of time travel and it shows, and she's also aware that both in general and in dealing with Michael the chances that this very important night for her will be knocked off course are high. I share her worry... you know, kind of.

I am increasingly desperate to know what's going on with Randall. Although given that he clearly knows something about time travel, maybe however that happened also explains how they were able to get the shot of Dwight...

Author's Response:

Thanks - Michael seems to come natural to me (a little scary, right) but maybe it's because I raised boys who are still not quite adults...or maybe it's that with him as long as its kind of ridiculous (or sex-related or inappropriate) it can work.

Remember the mention of the blue sweater (a little cheat for a loyal reader).

Yes, remember Pam does believe in ghosts and while up until now not time travel, she does have an interest in things slightly mystical (and love her some Harry Potter) so she would be somewhat versed in the rules.

More Randall is coming but really he is a step to - nahhh, I can't - sorry you're going to have to wait - you'll thank me. I hope it will be worth it. 

 

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed
Date: October 17, 2021 Title: Chapter 6: Chapter 6 - Code Word: Hermione

"He must have looked up nautical terms back a few weeks ago when planning this shindig and learned the meaning of coxswain, hoping to find some way to work in a that’s what she said joke over the course of the night." Yep. That... that is what happened. Absolutely. This feels like a huge missed opportunity in canon too.

Pam's pride at using the baseball analogy is sweet... and also a very apt description of Michael. Just when you think he's out of trouble, he always finds a way to leap right back in. His not-quite-getting-it password suggestions were spot on, too.

For the record: I think Stanley noticed. He just doesn't care. "Yes, Pam is time traveling. I wish I could time travel too... forward. To me being in my head asleep and not on this damn boat."

There's some fun bar material too... I would actually be willing to be at a lot of money that both canon Creed and the actual Creed Bratton are pretty good shakes as a bartender.

I'd actually kinda love to see a conversation between the two Pams. I think they'd have a lot to talk about.

Eeeeeep. That's a heck of a cliffhanger to leave us on. And feels like a good way to get Pam to reset her expectations - on the boat to make sure he gets engaged, but incidentally and accidentally getting a second chance to observe the 27 seconds. Looking forward to seeing how that goes for her...

Author's Response:

As usual, I'm grinning widely as I read your review. 

You crack me up with the comment about Stanley - now you have nailed him.

I 100% believe that about Creed - but wonder who if anyone gets the Tom Cruise, Cocktail reference. 

Don't worry - while Pam won;t get to talk to herself she will get someone to talk to...

Again I really am sorry to make these chapters so short but each one short as they are are taking a lot of careful planning. 

But two things happen in next chapter I hope will please you - even if they don't make this story get written any faster.

Thanks as always for the review!!!! 

 

 

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed
Date: October 28, 2021 Title: Chapter 7: Chapter 7 - 27 Seconds

"her auburn hair seemed more brown than red" - this is a whole twist in the "what color is Pam's hair debate" I don't think we've discussed. Is Pam being accurately depicted on camera?

I think you did well digging into what a mindscrew this would be for Pam, living through this moment a second time. This is all too new to her still to not be bizarre and unsettling above all.

But I think the thing I like best about the chapter is that you've put Time Traveling Pam in the shoes of the audience. It all seems very obvious to us as observers, but we're seeing plenty that In Timeline Pam doesn't, including things she couldn't like what Jim looks like after she leaves and the look on her own face. Yes, she's still having trouble reaching the obvious conclusion, because she's Season 2 Pam, but you get the sense here that if she saw everything we saw, it'd be as obvious to her as it was to us. Same thing with Roy's speech - detached from the emotions of the moment, and her being too busy experiencing it to analyze it, maybe Pam will see it in a different light.

(This interests me in particular with Pam's discovery that Randall is filming and the growth of that relationship... she now knows she has indefinite opportunities to observe scenes like this, even once she's back in her own timeline.)

Pam being too blind to recognize her idea that Roy must put *the same* sparkle in her eyes as Jim does is telling, and VERY Pam. *sigh*

Pam getting some of Randall's guidance as she moves forward should be fun to see play out. And as an aficionado, I really appreciate you putting Pam explicitly in conversation with the time travel rules of various fictional universes. Be a natural enough thought for someone in her shoes, and we're all thinking it too. Delightfully meta.

Author's Response:

I knew if anyone was going to dig on the haircolor bit it would be you. Love that it was. I thought it would be a fun way to spark that debate some more (now if only a few more debaters read the chapter so they could weigh in.)

I was really nervous I was going to get a little push-back on the reaction Pam has here but I'm so glad that most are in agreement about Season 2 Pam's blinders. She does wear contacts after all.

as usual I love YOUR reviews- you always seem to flag the very things I was hoping someone would notice.

Are you time travel obsessed too? WHy have we not discussed this? 

Thanks as always for making my own eyes light up as I read your reviews. 

 

 

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed
Date: November 06, 2021 Title: Chapter 8: Chapter 8 - Questions

Kinda love the Katy-Pam interaction here. Interesting to see how those two deal with each other and how Katy regards Pam. This feels true to Booze Cruise in the way that Katy treats her more as a potential ally than a threat. Poor Katy... you can really tell how much Jim's held her at arm's length here. On the other hand, the leap from "I know zero about my boyfriend" to "I'd like to be engaged" is a big one. Feels like she's more enamored with the idea of Jim than the real Jim here.

"There’d most surely be a major upheaval, a commotion that would bring everyone aboard to the site of convergence, creating confusion and panic, screaming and fainting, and quite possibly more people jumping out the windows into the freezing waters." That would be my exact response to discovering myself on a boat with two Michael Scotts.

This idea of the voices of doubt constantly crowding Pam's head and how Jim's voice is the only one that quiets them... I like that. I like that a lot. And you continue to make highly amusing use of Pam's hard-earned understanding of Michael here, too. I bet you he would at least have *tried* to get to the real command center of the boat.

Pam trying to apparate is hilarious. #JimIsPamsPatronus

Author's Response:

In this interest of getting back to writing will try to be brief - but always do want to let it be known how much I appreciate each and every review...

Filling in the early part of the Katy /Pam conversation felt like a good place to layer in some more of Pam's connection to Jim that she still doesn't quite understand the significance of.

Glad you are still digging on the Pam and Michael relationship - this story is as much about them as it is about Jam.

Thrilled you mentioned the apparating...I was a little worried it was a step to far from Pam's character but after time traveling I figured she'd have to be a little more open to stuff like this....and besides I promised there'd be Harry Potter stuff in the summary.

Jim absolutely is Pam's Patronus!!!!!!!! Kinda love that hashtag! Only she doesn't know it yet. 

 

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed
Date: November 14, 2021 Title: Chapter 9: Chapter 9 -The Brig

"It reminded her of the cockpit of an airplane, which she’d seen up close as child, back when it was a regular practice to visit the pilots in flight and be given a pin of metal wings." *sigh* I'm nostalgic for those days. No wonder Gen Z is angry all the time. It's a cute - and effective - metaphor for Pam losing her sense that the future is wide open as she grows up.

Oooof. Pam always has to learn her lessons the hard way, doesn't she? Her fear here yet again holds her back from getting what she really wanted. And you did well letting us feel her frustration - if she's not getting to see hre re-engagement, what the heck is all this FOR? (Patience, Pam - the purpose of the evening is coming if you're willing to see it.)

I kind of love having Ryan spotting the two Michaels - he's definitely not open-minded enough to believe in something magical or curious enough to investigate, and also it's more or less his worst nightmare.

Lovely grace note with Michael's humanity - and well placed, too. He really is a kind soul, buried well underneath at all and when his ego is no longer at risk. Just because he can't ADMIT it's his fault and that people got hurt, doesn't mean he doesn't know it is and want to change it. And as always, Pam being able to work with the childlike elements of Michael is sweet. I bet she makes Cece and Phil pink swear all the time.

Props to working in the reference to Jenna's Star Wars skepticism - and of course this is one of those rare things Dwight and Jim totally agree on. (They definitely have secretly watched AT LEAST one piece of geek culture together. Firefly maybe?)

Okay, GAME-CHANGER. So Pam is going to get the answers here she was denied at the end of The Secret, hearing at least some of it from the horse's mouth... and getting time to consider what it all means before having to respond. Very much looking forward to how all this plays out, and seeing the road forward in this story a little more clearly: much like the time-turner, they're going to keep having adventures right up until the moment they rejoin the present day!

P.S. I *may* have missed my shout-out but I'm gonna keep reading for it.

Author's Response:

Hey- it was just a shout out in the sense I wanted to acknowledge your support for this story and the help with weighing in on the lines - I don't think I slipped anything into the story. I'll try to in a future chapter if I can find a way that's organic. But I do appreciate your excitement for this story so wanted to let you know.

Pam's romantic problems are not all her problems, when we meet her in season 1 and get to know her more in season 2 she seems a little broken like she's lost her way - I wanted to bring that out too, in a subtle way. Remind the reader and her too - and you know I like my symbolism and circularity. Glad you are noticing these mentions.

Still not sure exactly how time travel works and i'm still making it up as I go along -taking all my movie references into account- but I'm having fun with all the ways having a second set of M and P affect the original timeline and well as the other way around, case in point, this one with Ryan.

To me Michael never means to be awful and with his childlike behavior has trouble taking blame ( I believe he was internally devastated in Scott's Tots) but something about Pam allows him to peel away some of that armor and get out what he truly feels. and Pam knows exactly how to deal with her first child even if he was not her *firstborn*. #MammaPam

Star Wars bit was more about getting in the lines about understanding the past/future with the knowledge of the other - but had secondary to it was the whole JF & Star Wars idea and the idea that Dwight and Jim also have a bond even if they too can't admit it.

I would have liked to have her come to her senses right there - but where would be the fun in that - and what would we do for two more weeks (and 16 or so more chapters?) 

As always  - big Thank you! 

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed
Date: November 28, 2021 Title: Chapter 10: Part II: Chapter 10. House Guests

Thought you did well establishing Pam's disorientation here - and how it extends beyond just not knowing *where* she is.

Maybe it's having just spent the weekend with my nieces and nephew, but I found myself particular amused by Pam's parental exasperation with Michael here - how she tires of the constant whys and needs to be constantly warning him to be behave himself. Of course, he also has the childlike ability to accept this bizarre situation for what it is, so maybe he's not the worst possible partner for time travel. (Angela. Definitely Angela.) Wondering what Pam's corrected eyesight means going forward...

I honestly feel a little bad that Current Michael is getting yelled at for such an innocent mistake with the car here... I mean, *he's* not the one who ruined those folks' evening, that was... you know. Past him. And this reminder of Roy's less admirable tendencies right on the heels of all of this sounds like just the ticket for Pam.

Yikes. That's a bullet dodged with Angela. Not that she would've bought the time travel, but she definitely would've made a HUGE fuss about seeing Michael and Pam in whatever she assumes is a compromising position.

Of course, I'm also kind of with Michael in assuming that having a spare two weeks feels like a good time to do something he might not otherwise have time to do. If he's got to stay out of sight, why not learn a new language? I know it's pre-Duolingo, but I think he could make some progress.

Yikes. With great power comes great responsibility, and with knowing Michael Scott is time travelling means accept him as a houseguest. Poor Randall!

Author's Response:

Yeah well I feel like I wake up often that way, wondering how did I get here (ie - where did the time go) and I'm not a time traveler so I just pumped it up a notch for what Pam is going through.

Pam is kinda a surrogate mother to him even when they are not time traveling so this is just par for her course. 

As for the eyesight - it began as a way to simplify things as the contacts could have been a sticky thing to work in and when you can mess with logic and rules of the universe you are creating - well then why not? We will see if it has deeper meaning in the future (of this story).

Yeah I felt bad for Michael too which is why I had Pam hug him - aside from wanting to work in another near miss.

Ok - this is Michael we are talking about - you know how they say youth is wasted on the young - well time travel is wasted on the .. you know the rest.

Poor Randall - think of poor Gabby, his wife.

As always a big thank you for your review. 

 

 

 

 

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed
Date: December 16, 2021 Title: Chapter 11: Chapter 11 - The Key

"telegraph, telephone, tell-a-Michael." I lol'd.

You know what? I understand why it's frustrating Pam, but I think Michael deserves a little credit here. For once, he has actually learned from his mistakes and he is not digging the hole any deeper. I'm proud of him. Maybe time travel really is helping him grow?

"looked back at her husband who locked eyes with her in a silent communication that reminded Pam of the way she sometimes passed messages to Jim without ever saying a word." Ugh. OPEN YOUR EYES, PAM. Come on. You can't tell that's meaningful? *grumbles* But seriously - very true to them, and feels like something she'd be thinking about here.

That's actually kind of an interesting relationship test. Could you tell them you think you're stuck in a time warp? Would they believe you? And it's a good note working in Pam's canonical belief in ghosts here.

Oh, Michael. I half expected him to ask Pam for another drink of water here. Pam's lucky to have Gabby there - maybe between a surrogate Mom and a surrogate teacher they can get him to behave.

His point about the grill is kind of smart in a round-about way! Surely regular timeline Michael would notice that his grill was gone, it would be chaos. A whole episode on its own. Wondering if his note idea is going to end up having repercussions.

"only his birthing process was the trip through time and what he forgot was what a baby he himself had been that whole day." LOL. He really is a little boy in this chapter, in a very enjoyable way. I love his spy caper.

Ugh. Poor Pam. She really gets hope dangled right in front of her and then yanked away here. I'm always interested in her relationship with Roy's family, particularly post-Superfan episodes now that we know she's pretty comfortable with Roy's mom. Casts some of her decisions in a different light knowing how intertwined their lives were.

Author's Response:

I truly appreciate your enthusiasm for this story - so much.

That seems to be the line for this chapter - all three review mentioned it. Glad you liked it.

Michael tries to do the right thing, sometime however when he tries too hard that's when things go off the rails...not saying it's going to happen here but certainly what happened in a particular episode that had an Elvis impersonation.

Open your now with perfect vision eyes, but that's the fun of this whole experiment - to bring up all the things she hasn't been able to see.

A test yes, but there might be more to it than that and that's all I'm saying.

Hope you like Gabby, she's kind of the Beth of this story. Every story needs a good OC.

NOw I am a little behind in those superfans, in truth I half avoided if only to not uncanonize things I'd written for this... then I went and watched Booze cruise  and used a tiny bit of it (Ryan in bathroom). But I'm rectifying that now. JUst hope it doesn't bite me.

 

Thanks again for always leaving such detailed and enthusiastic reviews. 

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed
Date: December 29, 2021 Title: Chapter 12: Chapter 12. Bruises and the Zombie Apocalypse

You know, time travel really is stressful! I'm glad Pam's trying to stick a few steps ahead. Although I can't help but worry what it means that Aunt Janet isn't going to call Original!Pam now... that feels like a loose end that could come back to bite them...

This was a very effective use of time travel here to make a point about Pam's emotional journey. Whether she's living it twice or not, she knows the future with Roy, and it's pretty boring and often unpleasant. I also thought you did well with the ski trip - that seems spot on for how little Roy would tolerate wedding planning getting in the way of literally anything else he wants to do, and the way in which "compromise" with them almost always just means Pam loses.

Jim being a significant presence in this one place she has to herself in their home was a nice touch.

Loved the shout-out to Virtus, and also appreciate that you ended up using it to solve a pretty considerable problem for Pam.

Looking forward to getting more of her adventure here!

Author's Response:

Is it a loose end or a red herring?- Only time will tell.

Yea, that girl is always having to make excuses to herself for him. He really does suck. Too bad she has better vision now but still isn't quite seeing it.

Had to drop in a little Jim some way -and then getting to do it again and have both him and Dwight help solve an issue she didn't know she'd be having - and get to hint at V by way of it - well I'll admit it was fun to write.

Thanks as always for the review! 

  

 

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed
Date: January 07, 2022 Title: Chapter 13: Chapter 13. Ghosts don't have Pockets

Ha! I thought that missed call might end up being a complicating factor, but my thoughts were much more like the issues caused at the beginning rather than the... side-flash?... at the end. Red flag city, Roy. Interested to see how this plays out... timetravel!Pam seeing how Jim feels, and her actions maybe butteryfly effecting how OriginalFlavor!Pam sees Roy and Jim as opposed to making OriginalFlavor!Pam suspicious of the strangeness in her own life. VERY cool.

Michael in stereo is a *horrifying* concept. Kudos for introducing it and then doubling down with the concept of three Michael Scotts. Good call, Pam - not sure the world could survive that. But Michael trying to unwind the consequences of time travel is hilarious. I was genuinely concerned for a minute that he actually remembered the winning lottery numbers for sometime in the next two weeks and we were about to enter time paradox hell, but this is hilarious, and a very Michael mistake to make. Hard to imagine a more frustrating companion for this sort of trip.

Oh, Pam. Your lottery fantasy... this is really a much lovelier take on this than the thoroughly depressing Jim-Pam fight in Lotto, but come on, lady. You win the lottery and your third thought is "BUT WHAT ABOUT JIM?" Season 2 Pam is frustrating.

I don't remember It's A Wonderful Life as well as I should, but I've got a sneaking suspicion Pam is misremembering the context of the quote that reminds her of Jim. And the idea that this is really an It's A Wonderful Life story rather than a time travel story is GREATLY intriguing, even if you don't keep going with it.

Fun seeing a time travel story wrestle with all of the practical challenges of suddenly being thrown backwards into a different moment in the modern world, even for a short period. Feels like this is a thing a lot of time travel protagonists must go through offscreen.

And kudos working Jenna's strong feelings on pockets in here, too.

Author's Response:

As challenging as writing time travel is - it is quite exhilarating and with all the little things it can introduce I am having so much fun. Nice to see that you are noticing much of the nuances that I've put into play. 

And yeah - two, no three Michaels - I guess you can say I watched me some Back to the Future to research. Fun what you can do with time travel - wait I already said that.  

Okay, I will also admit I got a little confused myself when it came to how traveling back in time could possibly benefit them lottery wise. Still am - but I thought this worked well...let me have Pam think about how becoming rich could mean losing her friendship with Jim - but yeah season 2 Pam is frustrating. Why do you think I'm writing this?

Oh and IAWL - awesome movie and one more theme of which is having the right partner makes all the difference in your life. I mean without Mary - he would have been pretty depressed at never being able to do all the things in life he wanted but with her - his life was rich. Ahem maybe that's what she should have been thinking about instead of the "friendship" with Jim. But like you said season 2 Pam is frustrating.

So often in time travel movies/stories they seem to have everything they need to survive in their new timeline and I often call foul. Wanted to address the things like that so others couldn't call foul on me.

And work in- JF's stand about pockets, too. Glad you "read" the podcast to be able to pick up on that.

THANKS for reviewing! Eating them up. 

 

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed
Date: January 18, 2022 Title: Chapter 14: Chapter 14 - Three Strikes

"Michael’s three strikes didn’t take long." I knew from this line I was going to love this chapter. Poor Pam. Poor Gabby. And maybe a little bit poor Michael? Honestly, two of these I can kind of forgive him for, but really, Michael, mocking the appearance of their children? You thought that was going to go over well? (I love the note that Michael makes it clear to Pam he was behaving way worse than Randall described.) You did a lot of fun work with him here - the description of him trying to hold it together while Pam got credit for the gifts that HIS money bought was perfect.

For all of Gabby's handle on him, Pam could've told her that was a lost cause. I love her exchange with Pam about him not being a kid: "Isn't he though?"

Wow. Imagine being able to go back in time and predict what was happening on Lost in Season 2. Forget the lottery, Pam should've found a way to monetize *that.*

Very interesting with Gabby's stories about her and Randall's marriage, and the parallels with Pam's own life with a partner with zero interest in doing anything for her happiness. Given how much she seems to know about Michael, I wonder if Gabby maybe knows enough about Pam and Jim to be doing this on purpose...

Author's Response:

I mentioned in another response I saw the scene with Pam getting the gift credit as a mix between his trying to hold back the TWSS in Sexual Harassment and the Seinfeld BIg Salad episode. Glad you liked it and all the Michael stuff. The three strikes were actually harder than I thought to come up with a write...glad you felt they worked.

Now remember, she's only 2 weeks back - not a big leap in Lost time. Not sure why Gabby was so far behind? She had plenty of spare time, right. Here's my theory (on my own story - but it's still just conjecture) So while she had plenty of time, Randall did not and this was a show they watched together. Randall was good at picking up the nuances and had lots of theories. Gabby always had to go back after they watched together to see the things he talked about. Kind of like when a podcast mentions something and you're like  - wow didn't catch that.

The episode she was watching was from November but that one she'd seen, this was a rewatch to catch the things Randall noticed. The one(s) Michael erased were ones being held for them to watch together. Lost forever now (or at least until the reruns and syndication). 

Hmm, could it be or does Gabby just have a good, healthy marriage and Pam just has no role model of that? Hmmmm.

Thanks again for your review. 

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed
Date: January 30, 2022 Title: Chapter 15: Chapter 15 - COPS and Conversations

"without Pam to keep an eye on him the likelihood he might get caught or do something that could wreak havoc on the future was as high as the probability of him kicking Toby out of any given meeting." Lol. Also, that's high. I share her concern. Randall's got his work cut out for him here.

Oh, Pam. Have you noticed that every time you consider a potential change in your life, you go *directly* to how it will impact your time with Jim? Or how as soon as Gabby suggests you're missing someone, you assume it *must* be Jim? Or how you literally have nothing nice to say about Roy? No, of course you don't. Because you're Season 2 Pam, and this has to be difficult for everyone. *grumbles at Season 2 Pam*

The near miss with concussed Dwight is a nice touch. Makes you wonder what else just got by him that day. And of course the no toilet paper issue ended up coming back to haunt Michael. Lol.

Delight with just a touch of sinister is a good way to describe Jim's messing with Dwight face.

"That got her thinking, she’d taken this challenge before so shouldn’t she have been able to get a better time this go around and now she wondered why she hadn’t. Weren’t you supposed to learn from your earlier mistakes?" Hmmmmmm. Interesting, Pam. Maybe something to ruminate on.

Mildly alarmed to see that Pam is now actively changing the past, even as she and Michael fail to change the things that they'd *like* to change. I guess Matt going to the hospital instead of Randall still falls within a relatively immutable timeline, but it's something to keep an eye on.

(Not going to lie, I was expecting Pitbull and not Huey Lewis in that link, in spite of the fact that it was clearly set up to be Huey Lewis.)

Author's Response:

You and Pam aren't wrong about Michael's impact but it also really all depends which time travel model we are in - right? Randall can only do so much - get him out of the office on time and hope he can stay out of trouble the rest - remember there's only one Randall running around.

Yes, season 2 Pam is, well we want to shake her a lot of the time - and this is season 2 Pam on steroids (is that okay to say Ryan?). She seems to be having trouble adjusting to her new vision.

Glad you enjoyed the Dwight stuff and hope it wasn't too much to read as much as Pam heard about his BMs.

Thanks - and how'd you like the prank? Always a challenge to come up with something we haven't seen before (or maybe we saw that and I forgot). 

The more things change, the more things stay the same - or maybe not. Once more, time will tell.

Ha- I used the Pitbull version in my son's Bar Mitzvah Montage. But remember 1) Pitbull version is from Men in Black not BTTF and 2) Randall's age makes him more Huey Lewis than Pitbull (in fact more a fan of even older musical artists) - stay tuned.

Thanks as always for the review. 

 

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed
Date: February 17, 2022 Title: Chapter 16: Chapter 16 - Overdue

YAY for some Jam time! Glad to see Pam is working some stuff through here. I am 100% on board with the idea that some of these things would have been how Pam rationalized their relationship - the comparison to Stanley and Phyllis seems apt. Feels like maybe she can really use this period to get her head on straight and think about WHY she's feeling what she's feeling, even after Roy picked the date. Before it's too late...

Honestly, that's my new time travel plan. Just go back two weeks and spend them at the library. Easy enough to avoid getting caught (present characters excluded), plenty to do, probably all the facilities you might need. On the other hand, returning an overdue library book on time is also exactly how I'd catch myself having gone back into the past. So this might need some more thought.

"It was more that Pam hated to be that person who didn’t do what was expected of her and kept something long past the due date." Yep. That's Pam to a T right there.

"But knowing Roy wouldn’t even know where the local library was, she knew it was best she leave it behind." There are like three different reasons to dump him in this paragraph alone. Just let Pam read, man! I'm glad he got pepper sprayed for a whole new reason. And then Jim took the book back! Heart eyes.

"“Count the hours until it’s time to go back in and see everyone again.”" Oh. Michael. Please come here and let me give you a hug. Him wanting to attend story hour was great.

LOVE Pam saving herself from being caught by Jim here. The two Beeslys working together! And Stanley, as always, just not caring enough about his surroundings to know what's going on.

Liked this chapter a lot!

Author's Response:

I read this review twice just so I could chuckle a the line -Just let Pam read, man!

I love the library -in case you can't tell. Haven't done much visiting lately (reading and writing too much fan fic).

I do appreciate your hug for Michael - it is sad right - like until Jan I'm pretty sure that is what he did every weekend (maybe sometimes after Jan too). Oh and did you catch the TWSS (it wasn't written in but you should have been thinking it after one line).

Glad you liked it - it got a little long but there was a lot to pack in.

TY for the read and review. 

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed
Date: February 26, 2022 Title: Chapter 17: Chapter 17 - For Love of Elvis

"And if she never asked him to go with her, she never had to be disappointed when he wouldn’t and that’s why she never made the request." And that, friends, is how you end up with Roy for 10 years. Oh, Pam. The idea of her starting to use this time not just to reflect on her relationship with Jim and Roy, but also to start using her time in a way that she easily *could* in her regular life if not for Roy's presence is, I think, a nice way of getting how limited she is in this relationship.

This image of Pam and Gabby singing together in the car is very sweet. She needs friends, dammit. Also seemed appropriate to move up some of this discussion of Pam's art - symbolically, it does feel like she's getting a chance to go through some of her Season 3 evolution in this story.

"She didn’t even know she liked him, not until when during a study session he leaned in for an unexpected kiss. Even then, she was more shocked than smitten, but who turned down the star football player when he whispered how much he was into you and so they began dating." Yep. That's how Pam started dating Roy all right. 100% him taking the lead and her kind of assuming things would come together. And ugh. The realization that they just don't enjoy being around each other much... this just feels very real, the sort of thing you won't think about when you're in it.

This story of how Gabby and Randall got together is ADORABLE, if a little painful. Please oh please let Pam get the message...

Undercover Angel was new to me! And I will freely confess I will always be partial to the Ingrid Michaelson version of Can't Help Falling in Love.

Author's Response:

Working backwards...I promised you a Ingrid Michaelson song but it's not this one and it's not for a while yet. But it's a good one.

Didn't think the Alan O'Day tune would be known by many but likewise neither would Pam - but seems like it was a big hit around the time the Gabby story takes place so it hit all the buttons (one-hit wonder but obscure in present day, about love or finding love, etc.)

Never could buy into the Roy worked at her parents appliance store so it became science class - look for that to crossover into another of mine (my headcanon gets pretty ingrained).

As I was writing this I really struggled to find commonality between Pam and Roy. It was really hard. TWSS. It made me even more frustrated with Season 2 Pam but also helped me to justify why it's "taking her so long to see the light!"

And yes, time travel has a way of both slowing things down and speeding things up simultaneously, plus bounce the events into different seasons and episodic timelines. More to come on that.   

Always thrilled to get your take on these chapters. Thanks for always sharing and being a fan and a friend.

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed
Date: March 20, 2022 Title: Chapter 18: Chapter 18 - The Art of Love

Remind me to tell you a funny story about St. Patrick's sometime. But I love that Pam is in full on "Jim is Kevin Bacon" mode.

"The cost of New York parking was more per hour than what she'd paid for the entire outfit she had on" - is it a critique of New York? Or of Pam? But I'm glad she's at least acknowledging that there always seems to be plenty of money for the things that *Roy* wants.

Hmmmm. Paying some attention to the couple that got between them in the elevator. Maybe they're just rude... but it *is* a time travel story, and that is an odd moment...

I *feel* the awkwardness of having drifted off and coming back in to realize you've missed something important. I'm with you, Pam.

The sense that Pam is mainly nice to Angela because she doesn't like the idea of anyone disliking her is a good connection. As are the many things pulling on her here.

Love a little growth moment from Pam to close this one out.

Ah, well. Probably better for your privacy anyways to confuse the alogorithim.

Author's Response:

Do tell! Always enjoy a good story.

As for the cost of parking, well Pam is wearing mostly clothes from her go-bag but.... the line was part hyperbole and part error on my part (the way it reads her whole outfit would have to cost about $25 and so I edited the line - thanks for bringing it to my attention). But yeah, the point is Pam is cost-conscious while saving for a wedding and Roy spends like he's Rockefeller but only on things that he wants.

Pam seems to be getting closer to seeing things more clearly, doesn't she? But she's still teetering. And who knows what lies ahead to set her one way or another. Stay tuned.

Thanks as always. 

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed
Date: April 05, 2022 Title: Chapter 19: Chapter 19 - Something Blue

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO(deep breath)OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Come ON, Pam!

On the other hand, I 100% buy this of her as a character. She's uncomfortable with change, so naturally she's looking for signs that things should stay the same, and interpreting what happens to her accordingly - even when she could easily interpret the same set of facts as demanding the need for change. And her recognition that some of the issue is her not standing up for herself and letting him make the decisions still feels like progress if you really want to see progress. It feels like you're making a case for the necessity of Pam's growth in Season 3 to allow them to move forward, that it has to more than just her running to Jim, that it has to be also her learning to trust herself. The line about how she couldn't or wouldn't leave Roy feels very telling.

"Even just the little nibble of doing things she loved was an overindulgence she couldn't digest properly after years of being starved." Good line, but also, oh, Pam...

Feels sad that we're losing out on some of these moments in canon... certainly the ice skating's going to be a different feel for Pam now after this moment. But then who knows how things will be by Michael's birthday?

How did I know there was going to be a real Sandals Grenada?

"Between the kitchen, the ladies’ room that became his temporary bedroom, the warehouse playground and the means to wash up, he had all the luxuries of home, but with none of the rules set upon him when he was a guest in someone else’s place." PLEASE tell me we're going to get to see the aftermath of one of Michael's nights at the office at some point.

Also, I'd like to see the Jim-as-proto-Elvis/Michael as the Colonel AU now. And also a Michael staying with Pam AU, which feels like a full story on its own.

Author's Response:

Yeah, that was my reaction too as I wrote it, but that's what I saw as her response to finding that, plus it was good for the story.

Hmm growth, are you on to something?

Because it's me  - plus I wanted to be bombarded with ads for Sandals all over my social media. 

Well let's just say we can't leave this story without some scenes at Dunder Mifflin.

Yeah, those could be fun...but I was picturing the pompadour like hairstyle Jim sports in later seasons when he finally discovers a comb. Could that be what Pam was drawing? when he starts using a bit of product and gets that lift to the front. 

But an Elvis-inspired rejected cold open - I'd like to see that! 

As always thank you for the animated and in depth review. 

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed
Date: April 23, 2022 Title: Chapter 20: Chapter 20 - There's No Place Like Home

"But as she stood in front of her own image what she saw staring back was not the face of an elated soon-to-be bride." Oh, Pam. Just... it shouldn't be this HARD, you know? Not at this point in the marriage. You shouldn't have to struggle for it so much.

"Recollections of times Roy made her feel small and insignificant lined her mind like sharp-edged formations of angry violets, shocking indigos and gangrene olive hues, whereas thoughts of fun times with Jim seemed just as vivid but more like splashes of paint that in their haphazardness screamed of the playfulness and optimism he seemed to always have for her." Art metaphors are exactly how Pam would think in her deepest moments... and this is exactly how she would rationalize the obvious message of them away.

As a general point, though, I think you did very well making a realistic case for Pam and Roy lasting so long. That there ARE good memories of Roy, just not especially recent ones, and that he DOES notice what she does for him and it's something that she gets joy out of, even if it's a little hard to miss that this sounds more mother-child than husband-wife.

The idea that they're bonded by a shared fear of change is REALLY interesting. I feel like I often think of Roy as just *comfortable* and not scared in his own right. And again, this feels like something that would help her rationalize a lot of his issues.

So naturally this chapter ends with Roy smashing it all to bits. Ugh. Ugh ugh ugh.

(Enjoying the Michael here, too - the overly complicated plans are very him, as is the nickname Pink Pamther. And you found the right mix of doofiness and fundamental heart here.

"Moreover, the bigger disaster that would occur when he entered the arts and crafts emporium being it was the kind of place that could inspire someone like Michael to try his hand at scrapbooking, candle-making, baking, floral arranging, and more, and all at once." WRITE. THAT. FIC.

Author's Response:

Reviews like these are so gratifying...that my little story can spark further discussion, that I can bring a convincible case that even I struggled with.

The shared fear of change - it came to me in writing and I feel like the Roy's wedding episode (though that one made me SOO mad at the time) is in a small way saying that with them both sharing that trait they held each other back - yes, no, a little? Of course, Roy being a huge ass and still extremely immature also a factor.

No time for another fic but I think I'll put up in plot bunnies - you were not the only one who requested a Michael at Michael's fic.

Thanks always for the reviews that keep this ship going. 

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed
Date: May 11, 2022 Title: Chapter 21: Part III - Chapter 21. Boxes and Cracks

This is an interesting hint of possible things to come at the beginning here, a twist on the formula - this isn't just about Pam learning things via time travel she otherwise wouldn't know but also about her strategies for shoving down her unhappiness and confusion failing under the excess burdens of living a double(d) life. And you quickly see it all piling up - the symbolic blue earring going missing again, the extra Michael time.

"If life were a movie, it would be time for the fairy godmother or guardian angel or mysterious stranger to show up to tell her what to do." This is a very Pam line.

For the record, I don't think Gabby or anyone associated with the camera crew in any way is as unbiased as Pam thinks they are with regards to the J sitch.

"She never thought about it before but if they failed, she might find herself in a permanent loop, stuck on a M?bius strip of time, just like Bill Murray, but instead of repeating February 2nd, she’d be forced into reliving a full two weeks over and over and it wouldn’t be with Andie MacDowell, who she had a bit of a girl crush on once upon a time, but Michael Scott she’d be trapped with for all eternity." That. Is. HORRIFYING. Although again... not much different than her current life.

Jim's note summarizing the major events that happened in her absence is a sweet and very realistic detail.

WAIT. PLOT TWIST. PAM IS OFFICIALLY IMPACTING HER OWN LIFE. (And in multiple ways, too! I caught the reference to the missing cash.) OKAY. THIS IS NOT A DRILL, PEOPLE.

Author's Response:

It's getting harder to respond to your reviews without giving away details to those who are maybe not as clued in but you are getting warmer - and that's a hint about next chapter - coming out today (i hope).

Thanks always for all the excitement and reviews. 

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed
Date: May 19, 2022 Title: Chapter 22: Chapter 22 - Espresso and Popcorn

“And they always seem unhappy to see me here when they show up. I don't get it.” Oh, Michael. I love that you worked in an "actually" moment for Oscar, too.

"the chill in her bones after seeing her fianc? hard to shake without something to warm her back up from the inside." Oh, Pam. Michael offering to go shirtless so she won't be cold is classic Michael. I hadn't even thought about the potential chaos of Michael in the warehouse unsupervised. Daryl must think he's going nuts right now.

Hmm. I initially thought this was a nice grace note for Roy with the card being in his locker, but paired with the photo and sandwiched by all the disrespect Pam described, hard not to think the real theme here is "the wave runners" rather than Pam's art. Although putting it in terms of his immaturity is a kindness still... maybe his future is just about him growing up.

HOT. TO. TROT.

The combination of relief and disconcertion at the explanation of the condom (and the book) holds up well, I think. And it's consistent with the picture you're painting of Roy as a guy who needs to grow up more than anything else... very high school moves.

OW. Okay, how is that reveal worse than finding out he was (potentially) cheating???

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed
Date: May 29, 2022 Title: Chapter 23: Chapter 23 - Packer Patrol

The duality of Michael on full display all over this chapter. From wildly insensitive to wildly encouraging in two seconds flat. And I kind of wish we'd gotten to see him doing this improv act when he hung up the picture in the office in canon now.

The Michael-Trelawney connection is spectacular and not one I'd thought of before.

And there's something real interesting here about how Pam has shifted her view of Michael... because we *know* she goes through this evolution over time, it's all just been speeded up because of the time travel. Wonder if that's going to happen to certain other of her relationships...

OH CRAP. THEY BROKE THE TIME TURNER. THE TIMELINES ARE RECONNECTING. SHE FOUND OUT JIM SAVED HER DOODLES. PAM BEING FORCED TO COME TO GRIPS WITH HER FEELINGS FOR JIM. THERE IS A LOT HAPPENING HERE.

"Un-superglue Michael’s hand from the desk." Lol.

In fairness, Pam, you know what's kind of a sign? YOU BEING SENT BACK IN TIME TO DISCOVER A BUNCH OF STUFF ABOUT JIM AND ROY. Furiously frustrating woman.

And after all that time, they fail to change another major canon event. BUT. I am very excited to see what happens now that they're about to encounter a fresh new day.

Author's Response:

Isn't this just like him- he means well but sometimes he just says the wrong thing and yet sometimes he says just the right thing.

Exactly what I was going for - the Pam/Michael relationship to happen in a sped up timeline.

She had to find those doodles and for that to happen I needed her to need glue, and well s#*t happens (not on the carpet though) but seeing what's happening in her other existence is very important to her growth.

Thanks always for coming on to review- big stuff about to happen and I'm thrilled you are here for it and appreciate it.



Author's Response:

Isn't this just like him- he means well but sometimes he just says the wrong thing and yet sometimes he says just the right thing.

Exactly what I was going for - the Pam/Michael relationship to happen in a sped up timeline.

She had to find those doodles and for that to happen I needed her to need glue, and well s#*t happens (not on the carpet though) but seeing what's happening in her other existence is very important to her growth.

Thanks always for coming on to review- big stuff about to happen and I'm thrilled you are here for it and appreciate it.

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed
Date: June 07, 2022 Title: Chapter 24: Chapter 24 - A New Twist on Randall's Theory

"Distant memories of good times with Roy were now interrupted by Jim’s ‘may I cut in’ as thoughts of him flooded the crowded dance floor that was her mind." I love this metaphor. You can just picture that image so clearly.

"Despite the locking door she hadn’t been sure she could get completely undressed with Michael anywhere in the building." This seems... VERY wise.

Okay. Randall nearly got me there. That would have been *extremely* complicated. Not that this isn't... what else have you changed, Pam??? What have you lost???

"There among more of the same binders that were piled on the shelves, some old plaques and framed artwork was a half empty bottle of Wild Turkey and a leather and metal strap contraption attached to a small red ball." MEREDITH. AND WHY IN THE OFFICE????

"“I see time like a rubber band, for the most part it, the band will snap back. However, I amend my original statements on the matter. When you stretch it too much, at some point it will lose its elasticity and won't stretch anymore or any longer.” NOT GOOD. And I appreciate you putting this back in perspective... Pam's going to get to where she's supposed to be.

Okay. A LOT of food on the table. Looking forward to seeing how it all gets eaten.

Author's Response:

Sorry for the delay but always want to make sure you hear back. Reviews always such a treat and getting yours are always so fun to read.

Of course at this point it's hard to comment much about what's to come but you know at least that one thing you nailed on the head already. 

Time travel theories vary wildly the more stories, movies and shows you watch and I find them all fascinating - but this goes for time travel and life in general - there's only so much you can stretch before you can't any longer. (time travel perhaps just exacerbates the process).

Thank you again for the review.  

 

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed
Date: June 23, 2022 Title: Chapter 25: Chapter 25 - Back from Vacation

AHHHHHHH THE TIMELINES ARE CROSSING. PAM IS NOTICING THE DIFFERENCE. SHE FOUND THE COAT. MICHAEL IS IN A STATE OF SHENANIGANS. HELP. (I thought Michael tiredly forgetting not to show up to The Office was a nice nod to the incident during the MSPC arc.)

Katy still being right at the forefront of Pam's mind and the subtle ways her jealousy and feelings for Jim are poking their way through into her conscious is really deftly done. That's our denialist Pam.

I thought this was a quite tasty amuse-bouche!

Author's Response:

Yes, time travel is messy and Doc Brown and Randall and any other characters who said not to toy with future events were absolutely right in that it creates results like these. But if it's Dumbledore we are looking to as our guide, he was well aware this is the intention of the time travel anyway.

Yes, still jealous of Katy but there was another reason that whole but was there. Another layer yet to come.

Always appreciative for your reviews and excitement.

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed
Date: July 07, 2022 Title: Chapter 27: Chapter 27 - The Plan

Okay, we've got Pam moving forward here, but I'm concerned about Randall AND Gabby's health now. And I'm wondering about the long-term ramifications of Pam's choice to stay with Michael instead of going with Randall... feels like a possible fork in the road.

Good lorde. I hadn't even thought of what happens after with Michael going through the rest of his life knowing he's time traveled. That could be a story in and of itself. I like that you're giving him something of a journey here too.

Michael both not really getting Pam and Roy and being HEARTBROKEN about Brad and Jen is peak Michael, and if it wasn't his promptly taking credit for Jim and Pam is.

Eeeep! I'm nervous about the next chapter.

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed
Date: August 21, 2022 Title: Chapter 31: Chapter 31 - I Can't

THE SARA BAREILLES REFERENCE. HEART EYES.

You did well establishing the tension in the early going here... and Pam taking time out of this tense moment to worry about being rude to Hank very in character.

"A new version of Pam Beesly, one who had a chance to start over and rewrite her story with someone who made her feel important and smart and talented and loved... Herself." LOVE this line, and very much in keeping with the Sara Bareilles song referenced.

Pockets remain a time travel necessity.

Her knowing instinctively that of course Jim would recognize her wardrobe had changed is such a sweet moment. "Even if she wasn’t going to declare her love, she just wanted to be near him, make things right again and tell him what she had just done." That's so THEM.

EEEEEP. The documentary staff is definitely going to suspect SOMETHING is up after all this... I'm sure they've got some weird stuff.

The Vicky talk is one we don't see enough in Jam fanfic. It seems like that would be a fraught and interesting relationship, especially knowing from the superfan episodes that Vicky is definitely a "call Pam at work" kind of future mother-in-law. This characterization of her fits, I think.

THE RECONTEXTUALIZED I CAN'T.

Author's Response:

Well I know you are a fan and I love that song and have listened to it enough that it kind of took over as I wrote. And I kind of love that line too. I'd like to think that this journey was not just about finding the right partner but about finding herself again.

I'm really glad you mentioned the Vicky talk. To me that is real and something I wanted to bring into play in this piece. There's no way Pam did not have a hard time losing people that I'm sure had been so much a part of her life, no matter how that relationship was.

As always, I appreciate you and thank you. 

 

Reviewer: darjeelingandcoke Signed
Date: July 19, 2022 Title: Chapter 28: Chapter 28 - Pummeled Moles and Hissing Cats

This sort of cascading anger feedback loop is a very real thing and well described. Also, again, the detail of Roy being a road ragey-style terrible driver (and responding to criticism of it by driving even worse) is spot on.

This feels like some progress for Pam... maintaining her rage instead of letting it morph into sadness is important to defeating her passivity. Even if she's not quite prepared to keep it up. And it's good to see her, even without being able to have some perspective on herself from time travel, entertaining these doubts.

And our current timeline Pam seems like she's finding her footing, maybe for good! Might not be coming as fast as she would like, but she's making moves in a way that works for the long term.

Author's Response:

Cascading anger feedback loop - This is precisely what I've been trying to convey this whole time and here you put it words I couldn't have said better myself. 

Close but no cigar for past Pam, but with new Pam's influence she's at least had the thought and made an attempt.

Good thing New Pam will be taking the reins with the next chapter which I can't wait for you to read!!!!