Penname: warrior4 Real name: Eric
Member Since: May 31, 2018

Bio:

Author of the Month March 2020

I've been writing fanfiction for awhile now. Just recently discovered The Office and figured I'd try my hand at that as well.

At first I thought of having all my stories in the same universe, but then I had some AU ideas. So any stories that occur within a common universe will be in a given series.


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Summary: Moments when Pam, Jim, and Roy notice each other. Not a continuous narrative, but now complete.
Categories: Jim and Pam, Episode Related
Characters: Jim, Pam, Roy
Genres: Angst, Fluff, Inner Monologue, Workdays
Warnings: None
Series: None
Chapters: 44 Table of Contents
Completed: Yes Word count: 48000 Read Count: 53830 ePub Downloads: 6
[Report This] Published: January 03, 2019 Updated: February 12, 2019
Reviewer: warrior4 Signed
Date: January 28, 2019 Title: Chapter 26: Fantasy

One more in the "I wish things had turned out differently," category. The show runners had a great chance after this episode to have Jim and Pam re-connect a lot more than they did. Yet we had to endure the rest of S3 as it played out. Ah well gotta get ratings somehow.

I like Pam here. She's growing and the changes she's made are great to see. However she's not quite there yet. Granted she's only been recently dubbed Fancy New Beesly in this conversation so getting used to that idea, I'm sure will take some time. However I really like that she's hopeful here. That things are starting to bloom as you described. Yes there are still some rough times ahead, but at least the hope that things will get better has started to make an appearance.

Author's Response: I agree wholeheartedly. This was a missed opportunity,  albeit fertile ground for me here. I think Pam is naturally cautious: decisions she makes may not manifest in the world for some time after being made. Thanks for the review!

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed
Date: January 27, 2019 Title: Chapter 25: Fashion

Okay, so Roy is changing here, but again it's for selfish reasons. Now of course I get the fact that he wants Pam back. That much is clear in canon. However for him to think Pam's change in wardrobe is for his benefit just shows how little he's really changed. Still like before I can see the path forward. Roy makes some changes, catches Pam at a moment of vulnerability at Phyllis' wedding, briefly gets back together with Pam, but due to the fact he's always been in the relationship for what he can get out of it, rather than what he can put into it, the path eventually leads to pepper spray. However it's an interesting ride to see thus far.

As far as balance between characters, for one there's still quite a few Season 3 Roy moments I can think of. Showing up at Diwalli, joking with Pam in the warehouse, the art show, and then of course the confrontations at Poor Richards and in the Office. However far be it from me to tell you how to write your story. There's a lot more Jim and Pam moments to choose from as well. As always I look forward to what comes next.

Author's Response:

Yeah Roy is...changing but not changing? Like, he's ready to change outwardly but I don't think he's inwardly bettering himself.

 And don't worry--S3 will still have a bunch of stuff, it's just not going to be quite as much as S2... 

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed
Date: January 26, 2019 Title: Chapter 24: Conventional

Also, another quick note (hey double review too!) the starting form is Charmander, then evolving to Charmeleon, then finally evolving to Charizard. I'd say I'd stop nerding out with that, but it's probably not going to happen.

Author's Response: Nice catch. This is Jim's subconscious at work--he wants to think of himself going from starter on up but...be honest. Is Stamford Jim really a more evolved Pokemon than Scranton Jim (my answer? only if it's like a Kakuna).

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed
Date: January 26, 2019 Title: Chapter 24: Conventional

Thanks for the shout out at the end there. Here I am sitting in my chair happily reading, while my wife and her best friend are talking about Oreo's and the pack of "Most Stuffing Ever" currently on our counter prior to starting their D&D game, and then they just look over at me like I'm crazy due to me laughing at my computer. Good times.

Anyway I digress. Yes, angsty here, but also you can see Jim's thought process. From his viewpoint, Pam hasn't reached out to him. She's going out on dates, not with him, even though she's free of Roy. She's moving on. So it makes sense that why shouldn't he as well. The Pokemon reference was a nice little spot of fun there to break things up too. Who would have thought when he said he was evolving he was thinking of Charizard?

Author's Response:

Sounds like a pretty good Saturday :). Glad to contribute with the laughing.

And I like taking the words from the show (like evolving) and trying to find new spins on how the characters might be imagining them... 

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed
Date: January 24, 2019 Title: Chapter 22: DUI

When the line that Pam had sent Jim an email came around I at once was wondering why he hadn't then seen it last chapter. Good explanation for that there at the end.

I very much get the sense that this is exactly where Pam is right now. Yes, she's making progress, but you're right, things are still off. This is still the beginning of what's probably the most confusing and stressful time in her life. You do a good job at having that come across as one reads.

Author's Response: I wanted to find a middle ground within canon in terms of Pam's outreach. So this was my solution. She's still not fully there...but she's on the path towards Beach Games, I think. Thanks for reading!

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed
Date: January 25, 2019 Title: Chapter 23: Guilt

Why didn't she just come back? Well for the last time Roy she was your fiance! Not your girlfriend! That you've got him still not able to make that distinction shows just how clueless he is. He thinks he's trying, but he's really not. Dude still can't see the forest for the trees. Not that I'd expect anything else from him.

Great chapter as always.

Author's Response: Thank you warrior! I might give Roy a chance to remember the word "fiance" but not yet...

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed 1
Date: January 05, 2019 Title: Chapter 2: Paint

Short yes, but very sweet. Again it's the early stages of their relationship, but the framework is there for the full on JAM that will eventually bloom. I liked it.

Author's Response: It's a lot of fun to plant those seeds; I'm glad you're enjoying!

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed 1
Date: January 05, 2019 Title: Chapter 3: Stapler

Good take on Roy. He may oftentimes seem clueless when it comes to Pam, but I can totally see him looking over his shoulder at Jim if he feels Jim's trying to make a move on Pam. Roy thinking himself being the kind of Alpha male kind of guy that makes sense. Good introspection throughout. Nicely done.

Author's Response: Thanks! I like writing Roy in little bursts like this; it's easier to humanize him the less time I spend in his head...

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed 1
Date: January 06, 2019 Title: Chapter 4: List

Interesting look into Jim's mind. Getting very analytical with the list here seems very in character since in the show Jim talks fairly regularly about things like Pro/Con lists so I see this kind of list as fitting. The fact that he can reduce things to letters and numbers like this seems to make sense too as why Jim was able to bear Pam being with Roy for so long. It's not "this" feeling, it's just a letter and number. Good concept and nicely executed.

Author's Response: Thanks! I enjoy filling in Jim's mental life with things that I think might serve as (unhealthy) coping mechanisms, and this one seemed appropriate to me, so I'm glad it did to you too!

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed 1
Date: January 07, 2019 Title: Chapter 5: Summer

I like this perspective. We get a sense of why Pam was with Roy for so long, and where it started to come apart for them. I like that Pam's starting to grow and look at things more carefully here too. Granted at this point in the show she still has a lot of that to do, but it's nice to see where it started.

Author's Response: For me, I think, that is perhaps the most interesting central puzzle of the early seasons of the Office: why was Pam with Roy, and what is making that untenable now (not just in terms of her relationship with Jim)? So I'm enjoying teasing it out here, and I'm glad you're enjoying it too.

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed
Date: January 09, 2019 Title: Chapter 6: Do

I think you wrote Roy well here. The fact that even in his internal thoughts he still can't remember that they're engaged, not dating is telling of his character. He may think he notices her, but he's only seeing the surface and not what's important deeper down. Well done for writing that as it can be tricky.

Author's Response: Thanks! In particular, thanks for noticing that detail, which I'd been laying out there very deliberately. Your feedback is always so attentive, I really appreciate it.

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed
Date: January 10, 2019 Title: Chapter 7: Deer

That one took attention to get through. With Jim trying to think about how Pam might be thinking given the context of their day and all. I don't blame him for having to go through all those mental gymnastics to try and figure out what happened at the dojo. I also liked how you brought his list back into his line of thinking. And it's just there as an offhand remark. He's grown so used to it by now that thinking about that list comes quickly and leaves almost as fleetingly since it's so ingrained by now. However Jim is also trying to find the deeper meanings to what Pam says and does, which is why he's better for her ultimately. Well done with this one.

Author's Response:

That is fair. I think Jim's thoughts are a bit windy here, so that probably showed up in the writing. Thanks for working through it!  

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed
Date: January 10, 2019 Title: Chapter 8: Hockey

Pam talking to a scrawny kid at the end of the hockey game? Interesting...perhaps a scrawny kid who grew up to be a lanky adult paper salesman? If so, I liked how that was tossed in there.
Ah Roy, even after 10 years he's still clueless. Yes! Even after 10 years she still gets upset about the hockey game. Why? Because it set the tone that while you may like her by your side, you don't truly notice her since you're so willing to ditch her for other things.
That you're writing Roy as having all the facts, but unable to piece them together is nice work. Also I'd keep giving jellybeans, but I've already given my limit for this story. If I could I'd give more, just so you know.

Author's Response:

It is! A hat tip to Forgotten by Muppet, which I highly recommend.

And I'm  glad this Roy is making sense for you, since it's basically the only way I can make sense of him myself. Thanks for the feedback as always!

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed
Date: January 11, 2019 Title: Chapter 9: Sleep

I can definitely see this going on in Pam's head after they got home from the Booze Cruise. Once all the excitement of Roy setting the date wears off, she realizes that Roy yes did something big here, but after that, he's still the same boorish guy he's always been.
However seeing as she's been engaged for 3 years at this point and with Roy for longer the fact you have her clinging to that relationship also makes total sense. Regardless of how she feels for Jim, which in this chapter she clearly has some albeit confused feelings for him, she's still not ready to ditch on such a long relationship.
However she's still thinking about it. So very good job on getting all of Pam's confused thoughts and feelings out with this chapter. It's a good peak into how her mind is at this point in her journey.

Author's Response: Thanks! It is good to know that this is still hanging together with the arcs of the characters in-canon since that is my goal here.

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed
Date: January 12, 2019 Title: Chapter 10: Arcade

He knows her and yet he doesn't. Again your ability to have Roy see the surface issue but have no idea about what a level or two down is great here. And then when he does try to do something, his first instinct is to get something HE'D like before he thinks of things she might like. That he doesn't even stop to seriously consider changing his plans to be there for her shows he's still just an overgrown teenager. As much as I don't like Roy, you write him very well.

Author's Response: Thank you! I feel the same, which means it worries me that I have an easy time dipping into the ethos of "eh" that I see in him. Hoping it's not reflective of my own life! Your feedback is always well-thought-out, thank you.

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed
Date: January 13, 2019 Title: Chapter 11: Break

Was that another shout-out I spotted there? This time to AG's "Wake Me Up?" The "Roy left the toilet clogged and Jim came over to fix it," deal? If so nicely put in there.

Jim's thought process here is interesting. First he's thinking about his lot, and how much he misses his normal interactions with Pam. Completely believable here that that's where his mind would go first. Then the fact seeing that Roy won't talk to Pam. Knowing what we do about how canon-Jim reacted after Casino Night, it makes a lot of sense. I mean that in the fact that he's been having all these thoughts and feelings. He sees Roy not paying close attention to Pam. He DOES pay close attention to Pam, as you've been showing here. He's seeing Pam act a lot more friendly and flirty with him that her own fiance. Then to be told all those feelings were wrong, twice, no wonder the guy leaves for Stamford.

Maybe I'm getting ahead of things here, but the way you've got things going it's almost as though I can see the train of events unfolding and more importantly, why they unfolded as they did. Even with that, still great writing to convey all those thoughts and feelings to make it possible. Looking forward to the next update as always.

Author's Response: Thank you very much for the detailed feedback! Nice catch--yes, that is a Wake Me Up shout-out. And I am trying to get the train of events flowing towards Casino Night (and beyond); it's important to me that this be at least vaguely canon-compliant, and I appreciate you keeping me honest on that track.

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed
Date: January 15, 2019 Title: Chapter 13: Pasta

I feel for Pam here. Her frustration at dating a teenager in a man's body. That she's starting to realize he's not worth it anymore is good to see. I know there's still a lot to slog through. Sorry no really big in depth write up this time. What else really needs be said about this than what you so eloquently put down?

Author's Response: Hey, I appreciate the short feedback just as much as the long! I wish Pam had woken up a little faster...but I think both in canon and in this story she's aware of the problems with Roy and her appreciation of Jim a lot before she puts two and two actually together. Right now I'd say she's at a good 3.5 out of 4...

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed
Date: January 14, 2019 Title: Chapter 12: Union

Wow, Roy actually got a few more of the pieces put together here. Not all of them mind you, but more. Of course he's still an insensitive jerk. I mean if he's noticed since high school that Pam's been interested in art, and now wants to pursue that it shows that he's only in the relationship for what he can get out of it, not what he can do for Pam.

Again he thinks he's noticing things, but he's not really. Pam's still his girlfriend, not fiance. He's more worried about how he is perceived and that he's getting a raw deal than what Pam thinks or wants. That the fact that he can't even fathom that Pam might leave him shows just how unobservant he truly is. Well done for again being able to get all that out.

Author's Response: Thank you! It's interesting (though disturbing) to occupy that Roy headspace each time: trying to weigh exactly what he'd notice versus what deeper subtleties he can't even realize he's not realizing. Thanks for reading!

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed
Date: January 23, 2019 Title: Chapter 21: Email

I always kind of wondered what Jim's immediate reaction to finding out the wedding was off would be. Good insight here as I don't really recall many other stories taking it head on. Having him puke his guts out seems very appropriate.

Author's Response: Thanks! I have seen a lot of fics on this site that have Pam puking about Jim, but oddly fewer with Jim puking about Pam. It felt right to even the balance.

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed
Date: January 22, 2019 Title: Chapter 20: Shirt

Where was all this attention when you were together Roy? Oh that's right, you were to focused on yourself and just coasting to truly realize how great Pam was. Now all of a sudden that she's new and interesting but more importantly not with you, do yo finally notice.

Okay, now that's all out of the way. Roy's thought process is interesting here. Clearly he's not over her, and won't be for a long time. I like how you basically still have him in denial. All the lines that he's lying to himself that this is just a fight and she'll come back to him. I get the guy is hurting. However it looks like he's finally starting to see some of the why's of the breakup and that he had a much larger part to play than he might have first admitted. Always a pleasure reading this one.

Author's Response: As I mentioned a few updates ago, I think,  I am a little worried that my Roy seems so convincing, but I'm glad the thought processes here are sufficiently believable. Thanks!

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed
Date: January 21, 2019 Title: Chapter 19: After

Double update! Whoo! Okay now that's out of the way cause this chapter isn't really a "whoo-hoo" moment. Sometimes Pam is to nice for her own good and that's what I get here. Don't get me wrong I completely understand. The line "once you've kicked a puppy you don't feel comfortable coming at it with a 2x4," sums that up great. Given they still work in the same building it's clearly impossible that she and Roy would not see each other, but his insistence on showing up all the time would obviously make that harder, thus triggering all that we see here with Pam.

I think you're right there at the end. Roy is trying to save face, both with himself and with others. He knows he royally screwed up and he's trying to get everyone to see that so they'll pressure Pam to take him back. It might look like he's changed, but the way you have it, he's still the selfish guy he was before. Good on Pam for seeing that, even if no one else will.

Author's Response: Yeah, I figured I'd miss a day (see: yesterday) so I needed the double to tide the story over. And yeah, this is definitely the dynamic I see with both Pam (not kicking the puppy enough) and Roy (still being selfish). I'm delighted that the story I'm trying to tell is coming across so clearly for you; thanks for the consistent reviews, they really help keep me on track.

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed
Date: January 21, 2019 Title: Chapter 18: Pack

Aww Jim. Yeah, that would be a weekend from Hell. Hoping she'd call or do anything. His last walk through the office triggering so many memories that now are just driving further spikes into his heart. Gotta feel for the guy at this point.

Author's Response: Definitely feel for the guy! Though hey, just a thought, maybe wait more than 72 hours before you leave? Just a thought. Thanks for the review!

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed
Date: January 18, 2019 Title: Chapter 16: Angry

What do I think of this Roy? What haven't I said already? But since you insist. He still just doesn't get it. Love doesn't mean you get endless chances to be forgiven. It means you do what you can for the other person not make excuses for your own behavior.

I think the most telling line here that really gets to what Roy's thinking is this one; "she was like family to him." Like family means he's still not thinking of her AS family, even though they're supposed to be getting married. Again Roy has no clue what it means to be engaged. Now that I'm rolling I could actually probably go on about some large rant, but I'd probably end up repeating myself a bunch of times.

As usual, great chapter. Clear writing that makes it easy to get into the head of your characters.

Author's Response: Well, I wasn't sure whether this chapter got Roy away from where he'd been before, so I wanted to check in. Thanks for assuaging my concerns. I'm glad this still seems to work with their trajectories.

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed
Date: January 19, 2019 Title: Chapter 17: Casino Night: A Triptych

For a short-ish chapter, you did all three of them justice.

We'll start with Pam. That there could have been more to the "I can't," was inspired. Her feeling of shock and only being able to choke out those words seems very appropriate based on what we saw in canon and in all the chapters leading up to this. She's beyond deer-in-the-headlights here. You really get the feelings she's in a fog and doesn't know how to get out of it.

Moving onto Jim. Such a wide range of things we see here. From frustration, to a small glimmer of hope, to defeat. All the barriers he's had trying to carefully separate his emotions are utterly destroyed here. That last line in his section summed it all up so great. "If she couldn't even talk to him, there was no reason to stay." So easy to see how he reaches this conclusion.

Then there's Roy. No he's not the most observant guy, but after all this time at least on thing has sunk in. He finally figured out that Jim is interested in Pam in more than a friendly way. Makes sense that Roy would notice competition first. It's clear he's still thinking that Pam would never leave him. Why would he think anything else? He's been focused on himself and outside threats that the idea of a threat to his relationship from Pam isn't anywhere near to being on his radar. Looks like he's in for a rather surprising revelation in that regard.

I wish I still had some jelly beans to give to this story, because this chapter most assuredly deserves them. Great job.

Author's Response: Thanks! For me this was a longish chapter ;) though yes, since I did 3 it was on average short per character. I'm glad the treatment of this night for each worked well for you. For me this is one of those moments where choices I'd made while writing the rest came home to roost a little. Pam is sufficiently done with Roy, for instance, that I definitely wanted the "I can't" to be more than sheer intransigent disbelief. That was the biggest risk I was worried about here, so thanks for touching on it. 

Reviewer: warrior4 Signed
Date: January 16, 2019 Title: Chapter 14: Flight

Very fitting. I look back to the heart to heart talk Jim had with Dwight in the stairwell during Season 4. How Jim said he couldn't bear Pam being with Roy, "food having no taste," and the like. I see the beginnings of that shift in this. Inside Jim's mind this growing turmoil. The fact he know's he's leaving and won't be there to watch this wedding he's been dreading seems to allow him to still try to be the fun guy who even on the day of and during Casino night can still smile and laugh with Pam. Before it all falls apart that is.

Author's Response: Yeah, I think Jim's doing a lot of segmentation here: this emotion goes here, this one goes here, all can be hunky-dory. And I think by S4 he's sort of looking back and realizing it didn't work as well as he thought it did. And we are so close to it all falling apart...Thanks for reading.