Date: September 05, 2012 08:41 pm Title: Chapter 1
Although this was written long ago, I just want to stop this myth that Karen is hotter than Pam.
1. She really isn't prettier than Pam.
2. In attractiveness I also include body.
Karen is flat and skinny. Pam is curvy. She is in NO way fat, but she has great curves.
3. I don't know what kind of guy would prefer Karen AT ALL.
4. Pam has the better personality (funnier, nicer, etc.)
So all in all, thats a pretty bad assessment of the situation.
Pam: pretty, great body, great personality
Karen: pretty, ok body, but not curvy AT ALL, abrasive
Date: January 15, 2009 01:04 am Title: Chapter 1
Okay so wow- the ending was darker than I expected. But I too started watching the Office in season three, and I was so into Jim and Karen! I've finally reconciled myself to Jim and Pam now that they're engaged and all, but I thought Karen was totally awesome, and a great fit with Jim. And way hotter than Pam. But yeah, love the story! Yay for happy Jim and Karen.
Author's Response: I always try to do something unexpected. Unless I'm trying to do something totally expected ironically. I also like dark and cynical. And Karen is way hotter than Pam, except for the small boobs. Thanks for reading.
Date: May 12, 2007 01:25 pm Title: Chapter 1
This was a bit rough for me regarding Pam (I don't hate her) but thanks for having the balls to write some Jim Karen stuff. I am a big Karen fan and really appreciate whenever someone has the guts to write a happy ending for her.
Author's Response: I don't hate Pam at all, nor do I wish her any harm. I wish everyone long life and happiness. But, as they say, go big or go home. I'm tired of seeing 90% of fic being just a vehicle to get Jim and Pam together. I think there are as many happy Jam fics written per day as there have been happy Karen/Jim fics written ever. Why go where everyone else has gone before and done to death, when you can blaze your own trail and piss off a lot of teenaged girls in the process?
Date: May 08, 2007 04:51 pm Title: Chapter 1
Yeah, I understand being a poor college student, my parents are awesome and bought me the dvds :-) I'd be interested in seeing what you write after you see them, you are a good author! Hopefully we will get to see Jim and Pam's smiles again next season, you would be surprised at how handsome and pretty they get when they are happy. I like this season but it is hard to see them so sad!
Author's Response:
Thank you for calling me a good author. I prefer to think of myself as a passable author who really should be putting whatever little skill I have to writing my thesis, which my prof will really be pissed off to find has not progressed far in the past month, that is, if he ever gets around to paying attention to what I am doing.
One thing I've noticed about the show is that, damn, it sure is depressing for a comedy.
Date: May 08, 2007 09:52 am Title: Chapter 1
Oh, I should have added in my opinion to the end of my first sentence in that review. Will you pretend that I did? Thanks :-)
Author's Response: Done and done.
Date: May 08, 2007 08:15 am Title: Chapter 1
This doesn't actually upset me because it wouldn't happen. Haven't you ever fallen in love with someone you didn't originally find attractive, only to think they were they hottest guy (I guess girl in your case) you'd ever seen? When you are in love, looks have nothing to do with it. Well, maybe they have something to do with it, but Pam isn't bad looking and Karen's not a supermodel or anything. Pam is the one who brings out Jim's laugh and his smile and his happiness. I have never seen Karen make Jim do any of these things yet on the show. If she ever gets to that point then I would believe he could move on from Pam. But I don't think either Jim or Karen should totally change who they are just so they can marry somebody who is attractive. Karen tries to get rid of funny Jim and Jim tries to get rid of serious Karen. I think even with out Pam they are not the type of couple that would last very long. I'm not even sure Jim would have gone out with her in the first place if it hadn't been for Pam.
Sorry I wrote a book. But I think maybe you should watch the first two seasons if you haven't already. They are very funny and you get to see the real Jim, not this depressed shell of his original self he has been lately. Then maybe you will come over to the dark side ;-) We have cookies!
Author's Response:
I'd love to watch the first two seasons, but my internet connection is too slow to conveniently download the episodes, and, as a grad student, I don't have the money to buy the DVDs (I need to conserve that money for beer). Maybe when I finally get around to watching them I'll change my opinion on the guy. As of right now I've only seen sad-sack Jim, dolt Jim, and ass Jim and not much in the way of the chemistry Jim and Pam are supposed to have together.
I think I'll put it this way when I say that Karen is the girl most of us guys (and some - actually many - gals) would rather be with, but Pam is more right for Jim (at least from what people tell me). Not that I think my scenario is going to be the one to play out... after all, fanfic is here for us to create things that wouldn't or didn't actually happen.
Date: May 08, 2007 07:48 am Title: Chapter 1
well, I didn't think Pam had to die at the end, but hey, I like seeing Jim happy. And the way you write Karen, she seems like a cool wife. How far in the future is it set? And did Jim ever come back to Scranton? Just wondering...
Author's Response:
Pam didn't have to die, but I like to push the boundaries. Hell, I've written murder/suicide in this fandom, though I didn't post it here because I didn't like the way it turned out.
I like to keep things ambiguous. Grey area is the single biggest tool at our disposal in writing. Let the audience fill in the missing pieces as they'd like to. (What this means is that I have no idea when or where this is set or where anything fits in the grand scheme of things apart from Jim and Karen being happily married).
Date: May 08, 2007 07:30 am Title: Chapter 1
this is so sad! I hate to even think that Jim would ever forget who Pam was. This really made me want to cry.
There were a few lines I really loved. "First-name-to-be-decided-later Danger Halpert" was probably the favorite. I've already decided my firstborn son's name will be Jakob Danger, so that was really cool.
Also, "Never once had he called her Beesly". That was so sad!
Author's Response:
So I take it you thought this was sad?
I don't think so much forgot, as wasn't expecting it so wasn't on his first list of people who it could have been. I wanted to make it so that Jim could totally crush Pam's spirits while not intending to or realizing he had done so.
MrsLloyderineHalpert, you are so cool for deciding to give your son the middle name Danger. (I thought I was the only one who really wanted to do that). Awesome.
Date: May 08, 2007 06:50 am Title: Chapter 1
You made Jim's part very believable. Poor Pam to hear "Pam who?" But Jim's gone on with his life, he's in the middle of things, and gets an out-of-the-blue phone call. He has no idea she's been thinking about him. Wild.
The reference to green-shirt-wearing I think is too much of an in-joke. I doubt Pam would keep that reference in her head, especially since later orange is deemed whorish instead.
It's interesting that Jim and Karen didn't hear about Pam's death; I think that's good to put in. Sort of "life goes on and we're all in our own little worlds, who knows what's happening with everyone else's little world."
I would change "the metaphorical 2.3 kids", personally, and pick a number. I think the 2.3 makes it kind of jokey, which the rest of the piece isn't (except the green-shirt-wearing, which I think also doesn't fit).
Poor Pam. I'd hope if it had gone this way, Pam would buck up and find her own (good) life, but this is really poignant as you've written it and certainly a possibility.
Anyway, you don't need to go into hiding on my account. I think you did a really good job with this. And hey, at least one of Jim and Pam is happy...
Author's Response:
The green thing was attempting to show that Pam is still living in the past, so she remembers seemingly random bits of not important trivia that sort of relates to her life from a few years previously. I'm sure it's not just me who dwells on things...
I may follow your advice with the metaphorical children. It does kind of seem out of place (especially since I give their dog a name).
10 [Report This]Date: May 08, 2007 01:59 am Title: Chapter 1
wow.. i thought i would hate, but i don't. i actually... like. i think you just broke my brain.
seriously, though, it takes a lot for me to like a karen/jim fic, so congrats to you!
Author's Response: If I've broken one reader's brain, I've done my job. Thanks.
Date: May 07, 2007 10:33 pm Title: Chapter 1
I hope to god this is a joke.
Author's Response:
Well, the wanting death threats is a joke... But since this isn't my real last name they'd probably be pretty idle.
Apparently the government of Iran sends Salman Rushdie a card every Valentine's Day to remind him that they still want to kill him.
9 [Report This]Date: May 07, 2007 09:52 pm Title: Chapter 1
Is it wrong I don't hate this?
Is it wrong I want Jim to be happy with Karen?
I don't want Pam to die or anything, but, it's nice to get a new spin on something.
And I'd pick Karen, too. She *is* hotter.
I've said my peace. May you not get too much hatemail, unless you want it. :-)
Author's Response:
We all know what YOU think.
Keep the KaPam! coming.